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  •  An opinion piece on Putin by Mikheil Saakashvili? (4+ / 0-)
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    native, mickT, Sophie Amrain, protectspice

    It has the same validity as one done by John McCain or Marco Rubio, Saakashvili's bosom buddies. All three have been publicly touting Hillory's, Putin is Hitler, meme.

    •  Admittedly (0+ / 0-)

      but as I said it was opinion. He knew that Putin's fate was going to be changed in Kiev and he was right.

      That said, I swear one would have to be an idiot and a fool not to see Putin as a bad force in the world. His treatment of people who don't like him shows that, and for those who try to make the false equivalence argument as if one act sanctions another, double idiots.

      Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. They lie through their teeth with their head up their behind. You open up their hearts and here's what you'll find - Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. John Prine

      by high uintas on Sun Apr 20, 2014 at 06:08:06 PM PDT

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      •  70% of Russians don't think he is a (1+ / 0-)
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        protectspice

        "bad force in the world". Are these people idiots and fools?

        Putin's first presidency

        Between 2000-2008, Russia's economy saw the nominal Gross Domestic Product (GDP) double, climbing from 22nd to 11th largest in the world. The economy made real gains of an average 7% per year ( 1999: 6.5%, 2000: 10%, 2001: 5.7%, 2002: 4.9%, 2003: 7.3%, 2004: 7.2%, 2005: 6.4%, 2006: 8.2%, 2007: 8.5%, 2008: 5.2% ), making it the 6th largest economy in the world in GDP(PPP). In 2007, Russia's GDP exceeded that of 1990, meaning it has overcome the devastating consequences of the recession in the 1990s.[33]

        The industry grew by 75%, investments increased by 125%,[33] and agricultural production and construction increased as well. Real incomes more than doubled and the average salary increased eightfold from $80 to $640.[citation needed] The volume of consumer credit between 2000–2006 increased 45 times,[34][35] and during that same time period, the middle class grew from 8 million to 55 million, an increase of 7 times. The number of people living below the poverty line also decreased from 30% in 2000 to 14% in 2008.

        That said, I swear one would have to be an idiot and a fool not to see Putin as a bad force in the world. His treatment of people who don't like him shows that, and for those who try to make the false equivalence argument as if one act sanctions another, double idiots.
        Care to back up those rather vague and meaningless accusations with something of substance?
        http://www.thenation.com/...
        Distorting Russia

        How the American media misrepresent Putin, Sochi and Ukraine.
        ...
        The history of this degradation is also clear. It began in the early 1990s, following the end of the Soviet Union, when the US media adopted Washington’s narrative that almost everything President Boris Yeltsin did was a “transition from communism to democracy” and thus in America’s best interests. This included his economic “shock therapy” and oligarchic looting of essential state assets, which destroyed tens of millions of Russian lives; armed destruction of a popularly elected Parliament and imposition of a “presidential” Constitution, which dealt a crippling blow to democratization and now empowers Putin; brutal war in tiny Chechnya, which gave rise to terrorists in Russia’s North Caucasus; rigging of his own re-election in 1996; and leaving behind, in 1999, his approval ratings in single digits, a disintegrating country laden with weapons of mass destruction. Indeed, most American journalists still give the impression that Yeltsin was an ideal Russian leader.

        Since the early 2000s, the media have followed a different leader-centric narrative, also consistent with US policy, that devalues multifaceted analysis for a relentless demonization of Putin, with little regard for facts. (Was any Soviet Communist leader after Stalin ever so personally villainized?) If Russia under Yeltsin was presented as having legitimate politics and national interests, we are now made to believe that Putin’s Russia has none at all, at home or abroad—even on its own borders, as in Ukraine.
        ...

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