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  •  Perfectly sums up how detached they are (7+ / 0-)

    They're pretty fucked

    •  I'd agree if they didn't have a stranglehold.... (8+ / 0-)

      ... on the house and are predicted to take back the senate. And if our Democratic politicians were not constantly adopting their polices and positions, rejecting our president's nominees and refusing to embrace liberal ideas.

      •  You can't make blanket statements like that (1+ / 0-)
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        Shawn87

        False Equivalence is what THEY do.

        Yes, Obama makes unpopular moves. You may call it bipartisanship or selling out...but I suspect you are inferring the line that there's no difference between the two parties which is patently untrue.

        And maybe they will take the Senate. If we can't get people out, then, in a sense, they deserve it. But 2016 will be much better.

        Remember, we survived almost six years of near total GOP dominance in the WH, Congress and the SCOTUS.

        Message to Dems: We HAVE to start showing up for Midterms.

        by Jank2112 on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 09:26:47 AM PDT

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        •  Nope, he's suggesting that Democrats adopt (0+ / 0-)

          Republican positions.

          ACA? Based on a draft from the Heritage Foundation, used as a counterplan to Clinton's health insurance reform attempts in the early 90's, and the basis of Romneycare in Massachusetts.

          "Ending Welfare As We Know It": Bill Clinton, total GOP move.

          Expanding the surveillance state: Barack Obama, totally in the spirit of paranoid Nixonianism.

          The Democratic Party has moved to the right consistently since Reagan. Clinton had to move to the right to get elected, and we've been moving ever rightward ever since.

          Our current President has even suggested that he's amenable to weakening Social Security.

          It IS selling out. Selling US out.

          Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

          by commonmass on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 09:33:06 AM PDT

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          •  "Weakening Social Security" is false. (1+ / 0-)
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            That's propaganda, not a reflection of the facts.

            Also, a minor drop to cost of living factor was offered for a substantial correction to tax loop holes. That's the reality.

            "Stealing kids' lunch money makes them strong and independent." -- Ryan Paul von Koch

            by waterstreet2013 on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 11:30:53 AM PDT

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            •  No other President suggested cutting SS like Obama (0+ / 0-)

              ...except George W. Bush--right before his 50% approval numbers went downhill and never came back. No one else was stupid enough to touch the Third Rail of Politics.

              I had a bet with a friend. He had to eat his hat if Obama actually cut SS, as he proposed many, many times, as a way of reaching across to Republicans.

              To my utter disgust each and every time it was reported.

              Even if he never ended up cutting SS, he should never have offered it up. Never. Never.

              That was what finally convinced me that he is not progressive, not liberal, not even a moderate when it comes down to it. He is incredibly conservative, on many subjects, from deportation to refusing to pardon or commute except for token cases, to adopting a REPUBLICAN idea of 'health care reform' to making the Bush Tax Cuts the Obama Tax Cuts for two years, mouthing the usual FOX News horseshit about how those tax cuts will help working Americans and create jobs, to failing to protect and allow gay men and women to serve in the military by Executive Order, instead letting Harry and Nancy do the job, taking four long years to do it, refusing to Do The Right Thing, etc, etc, etc.

              Because he didn't want to LOOK LIBERAL. So they wouldn't attack him for being liberal. Because they lie as easily as they breathe, because President Obama is NO LIBERAL.

              If he were, he'd have approval ratings in the 70s, and we'd be back to 4% unemployment. He's an empty suit, for all of his 'accomplishments'.

              "I feel a lot safer already."--Emil Sitka

              by DaddyO on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 09:50:21 PM PDT

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          •  I guess you're right... (1+ / 0-)
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            We should have just stayed where we were in the 80s and 90s and ignored political realities, and continued to take drubbings in elections.

            And yeah, things would be no different with President Romney or McCain in charge.

            Either one of them would have repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell; they would both make a case for raising the minimum wage.  McCain would have certainly signed the Lily Ledbetter Act. Of COURSE, Romney would have helped the US Auto Industry turnaround.

            McCain would not have hesistated one minute in enacting drawdowns in Iraq. And no way would he have joined the conflict in Syria.

            His VP Sarah Palin would have, naturally, encouraged him to sign the DREAM Act, as well as having him sign the Children's Health Insurance Reauthorization Act of 2009 expanding health coverage to 4 million.

            And OF COURSE a Republican Senate would have voted to end funding for the F-22, and voted in favor of the Fair Sentencing Act, the Food Safety Monitoring Act, the Omnibus Public Lands Management Act and the Matthew Shepard / James Byrd Hate Crimes Prevention Act.

            And President Romney would have signed all of those bills, just as soon as he got done nominating Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court.

             Yep. You're right. There's absolutely no difference between the two parties at all. Why even bother anymore?

            Message to Dems: We HAVE to start showing up for Midterms.

            by Jank2112 on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 01:17:18 PM PDT

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      •  There's no "stranglehold" on the House. (2+ / 0-)
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        We beat a +30% in the polls Red Stater up in North Dakota in 2012.

        We can beat any one of them, anywhere, any election where a smart, LOUD, competent Democrat goes to the mat for the victory.

        "Stealing kids' lunch money makes them strong and independent." -- Ryan Paul von Koch

        by waterstreet2013 on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 11:28:31 AM PDT

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    •  Republicanism is a religion and racist one at that (4+ / 0-)
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      I've really come to that conclusion... These people (the GOP base) have been so indoctrinated (brainwashed) to believe Liberalism is Evil, they go to great lengths to vote against anything that seems remotely liberal even if it means voting against their own best interests, in other words… They cut off their nose to spite their face.

      EXCERPT:GOP base includes racist 'elements,' congressman charges
      Posted by
      CNN's Dana Davidsen
      (CNN) - Over 50 years after Congress passed the Civil Rights Act, the issue of race is back in the political headlines, after comments from Attorney General Eric Holder and events marking the anniversary of the law’s passage renewed the dialogue over race relations in the 21st century.

      Rep. Steve Israel, D-New York, said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union" that "not all" of his GOP colleagues are racist but "the Republican base does have elements that are animated by racism."
      http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/...

      "Cutting off the nose to spite the face" is an expression used to describe a needlessly self-destructive over-reaction to a problem: "Don't cut off your nose to spite your face" is a warning against acting out of pique, or against pursuing revenge in a way that would damage oneself more than the object of one's anger.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/...

      A search for truth will find injustice!

      by thinkingblue on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 09:16:38 AM PDT

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