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  •  An American President with the courage (20+ / 0-)

    to stand up in public and state plainly that law enforcement and the spies are running amok and s/he needs the help of the American people to rein them in while it's still possible could change the dynamic and check the growth of the surveillance state.

    They won't give up any of their power willingly, but it can still be taken from them. United we stand.

    Fascism in the mirror is nearer than it appears.

    by PhilJD on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 10:42:16 AM PDT

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    •  I guess we will have to wait (8+ / 0-)

      for President Warren then.

      I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
      but I fear we will remain Democrats.

      Who is twigg?

      by twigg on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 12:29:34 PM PDT

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    •  I agree Phil, but.................... (15+ / 0-)

      the last president who tried to stand up to the Intel Cartel wound up having a very bad day in Dallas and then the CIA director he fired was placed in charge of investigating who killed him.

      Fiat justitia ruat caelum "Let justice be done though the heavens fall."

      by bobdevo on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 12:52:45 PM PDT

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      •  You think they would dare do it again? (1+ / 0-)
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        Somebody MIGHT figure it out, the second time.

        "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." --Townes Van Zandt

        by Bisbonian on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 06:43:10 PM PDT

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        •  Oh, there's always a "lone crazed assassin" (2+ / 0-)
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          Knucklehead, truong son traveler

          to point the finger at . . . it's an American Tradition™

          Fiat justitia ruat caelum "Let justice be done though the heavens fall."

          by bobdevo on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 07:45:52 PM PDT

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        •  Yeah, they would dare (1+ / 0-)
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          Probably already have a list of neo-nazi/KKKlones in Witness Protection all fired up and ready to go.

        •  Why bother? They've gotten damned good (4+ / 0-)

          at political assassination.

          They don't really need to do the physical kind anymore.

          These days, they would have just leaked JFK's tweets to Marilyn.  For added oomph, they would have leaked them right after they lost the baby, to really make Jack look like a shit.

          Nixon would have won in 64.

          Dear Boomers: The dirty Rooskies aren't coming to get you. Breath in sanity through your mouth, breath out the Cold War propaganda through your nose.

          by JesseCW on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 07:57:30 PM PDT

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          •  The Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll angle (0+ / 0-)

            Doesn't play that well anymore, if properly managed.

            I am President of the United States of America,

            I get 60 hot, gorgeous, intelligent women and 8 Republican Senators throwing themselves at my feet, every day,
            Offering services that would make the Honorable Republican House Member from Mississippi, his wet suit and dildo collection blush,
            And I will leave it up to your imaginations,
            Which of the 8 are men,......

            A line of Obama Harlequin Romance novels would probably sell really well, particularly amongst The Republican Wives Club.

            Rob Ford could get re-elected, if he weren't a pig, and stoned or drunk out of his gourd, when he was supposed to, ( for official business) be sober,

            Lying about it, condemning others publicaly for  it, is what raises the ire.

            He double hockey sticks, you could probably shoot a man in Reno, just to watch him bleed, as long as you were open an honest about it. Cheney shot a friend in the face with a shotgun, lied, dissembled and got away with it.

            Kids and some corruption however, are out of bounds.

            •  Right. Dirty tweets don't take politicians down. (0+ / 0-)

              Dear Boomers: The dirty Rooskies aren't coming to get you. Breath in sanity through your mouth, breath out the Cold War propaganda through your nose.

              by JesseCW on Sun Apr 20, 2014 at 07:30:03 AM PDT

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              •  Sending Naked selfies (0+ / 0-)

                To Staffers, unless your Party is The Nudist Party of America, is a problem, due to it falling under the purvey of workplace, sexual harassment, and taking advantage of a position of power, not really somebody we want to give more power too.

                Tweeting pictures of your junk to virtual strangers with crude pick up line hashtags, just points out to voters that you are immature, impulsive and inappropriate, not things most people want in a Politician.

                Having a consensual sexual relationship with another partner, even if it's an affair, is no big deal, if the power relationship is seen to be equal, Your partner is either okay with it, or forgives you for it, and it is not contrary to "values" statements and "values" votes you have made in the past and present.

                If on the other hand, you are a Sanctity of Marriage, social conservative, who has condemned others,

                "Hiking the Appalachian Trail", with a much younger woman, denying it,  then running off to be with her, then crawling back to your wife, and trying to resurrect your career, yup, that will cause you problems.

                Running on a platform of "family values" while groping interns in the hall, will cause you problems.

                Running on a platform of opposing Equal Right Marriage, calling "the lifestyle" a choice, and an abomination, while having the Pouncer App on your Smart Phone will be a problem.

                If Bill Clinton had stood before the House, and said:

                yes, I had sex with that woman, she is beautiful, intelligent, and has a good heart,

                Yes I had a bj from that woman, which in hindsight, was probably inappropriate given our age difference and my position of power,

                No, I did not have sex with that woman, her beauty is artificial and it hides a mean spirit.

                In addition, Representative A, I also had a short term relationship with your wife.

                My loving wife Hilliary, knows of all my affairs, and while she does not condone my behaviour, she forgives my trespasses.

                Instead of telling the truth, he tried to tell a weasel lie.

                His sexual escapades didn't cause him any harm with the public, it was the weasel lie

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