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  •  Christian privilege is real but invisible (9+ / 0-)

    Look how eager so many Christians are to feel persecuted whenever their religion comes in for criticism.  Invariably, critics are told that they're not describing "real" Christians, but those other people over there.  Those other people who vehemently believe that they're the real Christians, and denounce those alleged Christians who don't hold the views critics are observing.

    Christianity is pervasively the dominant view in this country.  It's so pervasive that Americans would vote for a Muslim before they'd vote for an atheist, according to polls.  The idea that Christianity is persecuted when it is criticized is preposterous.  It takes a gigantic truckload of Christian privilege to even entertain such an idea.

    We have always been at war with al Qaeda.

    by Dallasdoc on Sun Apr 20, 2014 at 04:04:57 PM PDT

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    •  Many Christians, but not all. (1+ / 0-)
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      Some of us think this stuff is kind of silly.

      My God is big enough to withstand a lot of criticism.

      I don't understand the idea that I, as a Christian, am somehow responsible for the absurd and even hateful things that other Christians do in the name of Christianity any more than I think a Texas Democrat is responsible for the crazy stuff Rick Perry does.

      And unfortunately, both of these incredibly illogical ideas float around dkos with embarrassing frequency.

      But if I see a diary about "Christian" movies by someone who has "skeptical" in his user name, I have a good idea what to expect. It's like walking into a bar and being offended that people are drinking.

      (Although, heh, the Fundies hate the movie Noah. So I think that  diarist was wrong there.)

      Ah well.

      © grover

      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Sun Apr 20, 2014 at 07:47:22 PM PDT

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      •  Can't speak for anyone else, but to me it seems (1+ / 0-)
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        it's not so much 'responsibility' as acknowledgement. Both historically and currently, 'christianity' includes some pretty awful stuff -- which may be probably is both claimed as essentially christian by some, and denied as unchristian by others. It's those denials (alongside the silent 'christianity is solely responsible for Good Things assumptions) that bring out the most hostile responses, IME.

        And of course there's the Privilege issue, mentioned elsewhere in the comments. Sucks to have your faith tradition singled out negatively, but that's what you get when your faith tradition is unavoidable.

        Though it seems to me that the most vocal atheists are themselves survivors of that (one of those) tradition(s). They're not really outsiders, except for that one detail. They've still been shaped, had their intellectual/philosophical world defined by, that tradition.

        I know that you who hear my singing make those freedom bells go ringing. And so we keep on while we live, until we have no more to give... Don't you know it's darkest before the dawn. This thought keeps me moving on. Pete Seeger

        by TiaRachel on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 10:55:49 AM PDT

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