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  •  Good to hear (25+ / 0-)

    So it's not shockingly at variance with your recall.

    I found it quite interesting that a time series that is completely external to Dailykos could so closely match participation here.

    Everyone born after Star Wars came out is basically a Democrat. -- Save The Clock Tower

    by jotter on Thu Apr 24, 2014 at 11:48:04 AM PDT

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    •  That part is intriguing (17+ / 0-)

      so part of what we are is an overall trend of online participation?

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Thu Apr 24, 2014 at 01:28:21 PM PDT

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    •  I wonder about validity of comment impacts - (7+ / 0-)

      At least as judged by the "Total Comment Ratings" that each of us has in our DKos profiles, there is a major problem, which is that the Total Comment Ratings number has not changed since the current DKos system upgrade was brought on board several years ago. I've written to the DKos techies several times about this, and the response is always "We're working on it..." but it has never been updated. That would appear to be a real simple fix -- if the system is able to capture comment recs in the database, then abstracting the total number of comment ratings from the database is a very simple database query.

      So, I must question whether comment recs are being captured in the database at all. If they are being captured, why haven't the Total Comment Ratings been updated in the user profiles? If they aren't being captured, how are the stats related to comments and their impact accurate?

      "We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few. But we can't have both." - Justice Louis Brandeis

      by flitedocnm on Thu Apr 24, 2014 at 01:36:15 PM PDT

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      •  Sorry I can't answer your question (9+ / 0-)

        but I assure you the number of comments is being recorded.

        Everyone born after Star Wars came out is basically a Democrat. -- Save The Clock Tower

        by jotter on Thu Apr 24, 2014 at 01:38:57 PM PDT

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        •  The number of comments are only part of the issue (1+ / 0-)
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          a more relevant question is what proportion of the comments actually have consequence enough to actually move the ball down the court.

          Websites that provide just a place for venting are a dime a dozen and certainly Kos's does this about as well as any.  However, in reality the critical thing we should be looking at as a community is how we can make our most cherished comments more effective at altering the status quo.

          I'd like to see the site move from being a lot more than just another place for comments and stories that are of the venting nature and more a place where the comments and stories contain the germ of communication that will actually bring more progressive politics to the world outside of Daily Kos.  I've argued in another post on how we might accomplish some of that, but I'm sure that others have even better and more creative ideas than I have.

          Daily Kos should be focused more on finding ways to coalesce good ideas that foster broader participation leading to meaningful results, as well as yet another soap box.  I'm not arguing that this isn't currently being done.  Heck, this site is head and shoulders above most others and soapboxes are as American as apple pie.  Nonetheless, I think we can do better, particularly if we develop a more structured series of community based projects that inform as well as encourage progressive views and policies and keep these more front and center within the overall design and structure of the site.  

          This could be done through a kind of web archive project of the broadest kind, designed to solicit the active participation of new members, particularly the young and technically savy, who can help make the site more of a resource for all fighting for justice, equality, and progressive politics.  To be honest, I care a lot less about the stupidity of those we face than what principles we are trying to foster and how effective we are at putting those principles into practice.  Yes, I know that knowing one's "enemy" is important, but an endless string of complaints can never serve as a truly organizing and effective replacement for simply achieving political success.

          That said, it would be interesting to look at metrics concerning the comments.  Who is generating the most?  Are most simply one liners associated with venting?  Are the most important ones being saved and used to better effect in the future?  Where are our subcommunities really located?  How can we link issues and members to be more politically effective?  Lots of ways to study these data, which would be extremely helpful in making the site better (as in more effective in putting progressives in office and progressive policies in place).

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