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  •  I found the caption to your picture Cardinal Dolan (3+ / 0-)
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    to be extremely offensive.   It's called the Holy Bible.  

    Cardinal Timothy Dolan, with his knowledge deflector.
    I found the Catholic bashing that ensued in the comments to be equally offensive.   I doubt that this type of behavior would be tolerated for almost any other religious or ethnic group.  

    There are many Catholic kossacks.  May we have a little consideration, please? You can disagree with Catholic dogma without resorting to insults.  

    If you get confused, listen to the music play - R. Hunter

    by SpamNunn on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 11:33:44 AM PDT

    •  I found it hilarious and on point. Whatever (8+ / 0-)

      you call it, it has been used as a knowledge deflector for centuries now, and it is perfectly legitimate to call a thing what it is, regardless of its official name. We have executive toys, time waster, etc, so why not knowledge deflectors.

      That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

      by enhydra lutris on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 11:40:50 AM PDT

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    •  BTW, there was no Catholic bashing, but you (4+ / 0-)

      knew that, didn't you. I just re-reviewed the whole thread to be sure

      That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

      by enhydra lutris on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 11:48:33 AM PDT

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    •  I assume this a photo from Mass (1+ / 0-)
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      If so, I entirely agree.  The use of a photo from Catholic Mass is completely inappropriate in this diary.

      Certainly, his ego is so huge, photos of him abound outside of his sacramental duties.

    •  i think the caption would be fair, (0+ / 0-)

      if there were anything in the Bible to justify Cardinal Dolan's position on contraception.  But in fact, attacking tenets of Catholic faith are straight-up counterproductive given that something like 97% of Catholic women will use birth control at some point in their lives, and not for nothing, Catholic hospitals around the country had no objection to contraception coverage mandates operating at the state level for decades.  But, yeah, it's gratuitous.  The issue here isn't the validity of Catholic belief as the willingness of some in the church to claim a right to veto policy it doesn't like, like it's the middle ages.

      Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

      by Loge on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 01:52:13 PM PDT

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      •  You do realize that one of the major tenets (1+ / 0-)
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        of Catholic faith is no birth control, right?  Therefore it is those  97% of Catholic women that are hypocrites for violating one of the major tenets of Catholic faith.  In other words, the Church is right and those 97% of Catholic women are actually the ones who are wrong.

        You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 02:39:10 PM PDT

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        •  If every Catholic family does not look like the (2+ / 0-)
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          Duggars then some couples have some 'splainin to do. Hear that Paul Ryan, Rick Santorum, Antonin Scalia, etc?

        •  depends on the definition of major (0+ / 0-)

          it's not on the level as the Bible being the word of God, and if Dolan is using the Bible to repel the truth about birth control, he'd meet with limited success.  

          Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

          by Loge on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 04:00:36 PM PDT

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        •  Yes. I understand perfectly what you say (0+ / 0-)

          Galileo really was a heretic for upholding Copernicus, and so was Martin Luther before him for denouncing the sale of indulgences. Because their respective Popes said so.

          Or maybe it was the Popes who declared them heretics who were the heretics.

          Maybe the inerrance of Catholic dogma is actually a heresy.

          Or, since the notion of heresy is defined in dogma, maybe it's just really, really stupid, counterproductive, and evil.

          Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

          by Mokurai on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 10:36:50 PM PDT

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        •  And those Catholic men using condoms? (1+ / 0-)
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          Why is no one bashing them as sinners?

    •  "Accurately describe" = Catholic bashing. Got it. (12+ / 0-)

      Every, every, EVERY goddamn time anyone dares to notice the Catholic hierarchy's misogyny, homophobia and wickedness (what else do you call systematically covering up the rape of women and children for decades?) - some Catholic male crybaby bawls that We're Catholic Bashing and Being Meeeeeeannnnn.

      Just because you don't notice how the inferior gender is treated in your church doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It just means you're upset about losing your male privilege.

      When I did a reading for my first-grade Mass in 1969, I became my church's first female lector - at the age of 6. I've served as lector and altar helper and Eucharistic minister, and vacuumed behind the altar on Wednesday mornings (something you've never been asked to do, thanks to your penis). Don't tell me what I can and can't say about what I've NOTICED about Catholicism. You didn't notice because it doesn't affect YOUR ability to control your life or destiny - except that you might lose the right to lord it over a woman if we mere females keep speaking up.

      Thank God, the Bob Fosse Kid is here! - Colin Mochrie

      by gardnerhill on Mon Apr 21, 2014 at 03:56:14 PM PDT

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