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  •  Outlier, I say that again and again. (36+ / 0-)
    (A) for-profit entity cannot conduct the same services as government more efficiently.
    The belief that government is so incompetent that an entity with a profit margin can do its work more efficiently is not born out by evidence of any kind, yet the privatization manure wagon chugs on.
    Couple this belief with the idea that private industries are somehow endowed with a powerful conscience driven by free market magic and it truly IS insane.

    You know, the Radical Right's unrelenting anti-government spiel, biting the hand that feeds red states more than blue, reminds me of unreasonable adolescent rebellion against all things parental. You can sort of understand there is a principle in there somewhere, but to mature minds, it's a lot of noise that, if heeded, would serve to harm those who advocate for it the most.

    "Non-violence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by Gentle Giant on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 11:16:27 AM PDT

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    •  The entire anti-govt movement is a front for (24+ / 0-)

      privatization. Grover Norquist has been its high priest for ages. "Drown government in a bathtub" and of course it's no longer going to be able to competently deliver services. A dead government is designed not to work. And then the vultures can come in a take over everything.

      This is so obvious, it's astounding how few people see this as it's happening right in front of their eyes. All they know is the mantra, "Government is evil!" Norquist's genius was to turn this movement into a religion, and equate it with "free enterprise" and thence with "freedom".

      "We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few. But we can't have both." - Justice Louis Brandeis

      by flitedocnm on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 11:40:20 AM PDT

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      •  The competent delivery of social services . . . (12+ / 0-)

        . . . is exactly what the anti-government crowd wants to destroy.

        I am still trying to figure out exactly what they want.

        • They want to destroy a public society but offer nothing but personal selfishness in its stead.
        • They dislike contributing to a coherent community so much that they are making life meaner for everybody.
        • Their ideas are devoid of anything that I could see as offering a better quality of life for the great majority of us.
        • Their ideas are like those of classic deniers - they are all heat with nothing there when one cares to look.  They are against a public society, but for nothing.
        • Their mantra of personal greed is alien to a coherent society.  I contrast their "profit is everything" against somebody like Jonas Salk whose work for a polio vaccine was given to the public commonwealth and my heart sinks thinking of the society that they want.

        The best I can ponder is that they want a small, mean, society that does nothing but serve the needs of the wealthy.  A society that has no community, and no dream of an expansive and valuable future.

        •  It's simple (6+ / 0-)

          "They want to destroy a public society but offer nothing but personal selfishness in its stead."

          They think about life as a short-term, zero-sum game.

          If they win, you lose. If you win, they lose. It's, as you've said, personal Ayn-Rand-style selfishness at its core.

          Don't forget that most men with nothing would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich than face the reality of being poor. - John Dickinson ("1776")

          by banjolele on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 03:40:43 PM PDT

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        •  Does anyone under the age of 50... (4+ / 0-)
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          ...even remember the competent delivery of social services? This has been going on since Reagan was elected.

          “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.” Lyndon Baines Johnson

          by spacecadet1 on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 06:33:59 PM PDT

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          •  Even before that (0+ / 0-)

            Nixon used such bungling of LBJ's Great Society programs to create an excuse to jettison them. On one of the tapes, he describes the procedure to young Pat Buchanan.

            We build on foundations we did not lay. We warm ourselves by fires we did not light. We sit in the shade of trees we did not plant... We are ever bound in community.-Peter Raible

            by SilentBrook on Thu Apr 24, 2014 at 04:27:22 PM PDT

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    •  I would amend this a little (10+ / 0-)

      in areas where you WANT competition, the free market will be helpful. But you have to have more than one or two companies to actually have competition.

      If you DON'T have competition, you need either govt control or strict oversight. Either one is fine, but you do need SOMETHING.

      You want competition in consumer goods. Perhaps in some communication services. Some competition in transportation is good (but you do need some controls/oversight). You might even want some level of competition in education (private/religious schools are fine)

      But you need serious control/oversight on basic services, or you wind up with water/sewer/electric providing crap service at high prices. Those are NOT things you want multiple sources for (and besides, the infrastructure is too expensive to build) and you DO want some serious oversight on water/sewer, especially.

      If you want kids to go to school, you have to provide schools for them. Public schools allow the community to have some level of control over the content and the faculty and administration, and the cost. Private schools have a place, but they aren't the best use of taxpayer money.

      And don't get me started about prisons...

    •  GOP = Sophomoric (6+ / 0-)
      You know, the Radical Right's unrelenting anti-government spiel, biting the hand that feeds red states more than blue, reminds me of unreasonable adolescent rebellion against all things parental.
      IMO, that's due to the foundation that GOP operatives have laid for responses from their base. Act from the id, or lizard brain.

      I can just hear Frank Luntz's ruminations as he concocts GOP talking points, 'So many little shiny buttons to push!'

      To paraphrase Tom Petty: Rebels without a clue!

      You meet them halfway with love, peace, and persuasion ~ And expect them to rise for the occasion...

      by paz3 on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 11:59:20 AM PDT

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      •  Now wait a minute! (2+ / 0-)
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        I have a nephew who is a college sophomore (and a journalism major to boot), and he'd never fall for any of the BS the GOP keeps flinging.

        I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

        by trumpeter on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 03:32:53 PM PDT

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