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  •  Hey indy! (11+ / 0-)

    Just arrived back in Malaysia from our 3 months in Thailand. There is quite a difference in Thailands tolerance for firearms compared to most of the other countries we've visted in the recent past.

    Thailands is a lot more tolerant of guns than countries like Malaysiaand Indonesia. It was strange to see billboards advertising shooting ranges with people holding handguns. Met quiet a few expats who talked about all the guns in Thailand. It's similar to the US in that respect, but not nearly as extreme as in the US. More guns, more gun crime, despite what many on this site profess.

    In Malaysia and Indonesia, you don't have much gun crime. Almost none. Of course, if you're caught with a firearm in these countries, you'll be lucky if they execute you. Your other option is many, many years in prison. I feel very, very safe in Malaysia. Not what most in the US think of a very Islamic country.

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      Specifically, 79.58 percent of Thailand murders (some 25,000 in total) reported in the 2 year survey window were done so with a gun. In comparison, the 2nd ranked country, South Africa had only 59.2 percent of its murders (twice as many total murders than Thailand) committed with a gun, while the third, Colombia, amounted 51.7 percent of its murders (about 45,000) to firearms.

      As far as firearm homicide rate, South Africa topped the list with 74.57 gun murders per 100,000 rate (29,000+ gun murders), followed by Colombia with 51.76 (some 23,000 gun murders), and Thailand tailing in 3rd with roughly 33 murders by gun per 100,000 people (19-20,000 gun murders).

      As far as overall homicide rate, Thailand ranked in at 4th with 41.4 murders per 100,000 people, behind Guatemala at third with 43.9 per 100k (about 5,000+ total murders), Colombia at 2nd with 114.5 murders per 100k and South Africa maintaining the highest overall murder rate with 125.9 murders per 100k.

      "please love deeply...openly and genuinely." A. M. H.

      by indycam on Sun Apr 27, 2014 at 08:21:39 PM PDT

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      •  Where do Malaysia and Indonesia... (3+ / 0-)
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        rank on that list? I'd suspect they must come in near the very bottom.

        I'm actually a little surprised that Thailand has that many murders, but so far we've only travelled to the tourist areas around Phuket. We'll be back up in Thailand again in December and will see more of the country then.It will be interesting to see what we think after we've seen more of the country.

    •  Where in Thailand? (4+ / 0-)
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      We missed an opportunity for a beer or two - my wife and I live in Naklua, just outside Pattaya.

      There are a lot of firearms about in Thailand, even though the laws are rather stringent about taking the firearm out of your residence - for which a hard to get permit is required. It is also difficult for foreigners to obtain a permit, so most simply have a wife/girlfriend buy and register the weapon.

      Despite those strict laws, there is rarely a day that goes by without an article describing a shooting on the streets of Pattaya.

      I am a warrior for peace. And not a gentle man... Steve Mason, 1940-2005

      by Wayward Wind on Sun Apr 27, 2014 at 09:12:43 PM PDT

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      •  Sorry we missed you this time (0+ / 0-)

        It seems we spent more time working on the boat than enjoying Thailand. We hadn't hauled the boat out of the water for 3 1/2 years so we were out of the water for 2+ weeks and another couple weeks dealing with other issues.

        We spent all of our time in the Phang Nga Bay and the Phuket area. We never even made up the west coast. Next year will have much more time for exploring. We spent too much time in Malaysia this time.

        We'll be heading south in a couple of weeks, around Singapore, up the east coast of Malaysia to Tioman Island and then across to Borneo to see Kuching and the north coast of Malaysia and Brunei. We may then go up into the Gulf of Thailand but we are not sure at this point and don't know if we'll have enough time to do all of this in one season.

        We'll then head back up the Mallaca straits to the Phuket area in Nov-Dec. We'll make a point of contacting you when we get close!

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