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  •  Yet even he didn't even list 'gun control' on the (0+ / 0-)

    issues page of his website.

    Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

    by FrankRose on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 04:09:26 PM PDT

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    •  Whether he did or not (4+ / 0-)

      and I won't concede that point, because you never provide links, there's been ample links provided to you to demonstrate you're lying, once again.

      KOS: "Mocking partisans focusing on elections? Even less reason to be on Daily Kos."

      by fcvaguy on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 05:16:02 PM PDT

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      •  Frank's "winning"? Show him what he's won! (1+ / 0-)
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        by ThatSinger on Thu May 01, 2014 at 11:47:51 AM PDT

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      •  Herring *does* mention guns on his website. (2+ / 0-)
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        i saw an old tree today, fcvaguy

        FrankRose again and again says things that are not true, or are deeply misleading.

        poopdogcomedy's diary in Dec 2013 ("VA-AG: Did Gun Control Help Mark Herring (D) Win His Race?") was clear about this race, with quotes from the Washington Post op-ed by Herring's campaign manager, with the oh-so-hard-to-decipher title (written by WaPo editors): "Support for gun control helped a candidate win in Virginia."

        During the campaign Herring's website had several links to articles that clearly stated his position on gun safety. These links were only removed after he won the election (and was working to unite the electorate, as is standard practice), but they are still on his Facebook page, and one can still find the URLs on his campaign website, e.g.:
        * "Obenshain: Guns and Booze Mix" (still up on his Facebook page: and full text here: )
        * "Democrats push gun safety measures" (from here, still up:
        * "Herring slams Obenshain for support of radical gun group raffling same gun type used in Virginia Tech massacre" (from here, still up: and also still up on Herring's Facebook page, here:
        August 2, 2013  This morning, I spoke to the Virginia Association of Commonwealth's Attorneys in Virginia Beach about the needs for universal background checks to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and dangerously mentally ill.
        My opponent, Mark Obenshain, proudly stands with the Virginia Citizens Defense League, in opposition to every sensible gun law that both respects the rights of gun owners and helps protect the public from gun violence.
        SHARE this if you believe preventing gun violence must be a top public safety priority.
        But if that wasn't enough, there is still to this day mention of gun safety policies on Herring's website. E.g. (pdf):  
        Virginia women can trust Mark Herring to take politics out of the Attorney General’s office and focus instead on
        expanding health care, protecting Virginia families by preventing gun violence and cracking down on designer drugs...

        Preventing Gun Violence
        In the wake of numerous tragic shootings in places like Newtown, CT and Aurora, CO, and six years after the Virginia Tech massacre, Mark believes that we can no longer wait to implement common sense reforms that will reduce gun violence and save lives.
        As Attorney General, Mark will be in a unique position to advocate for and advance needed reforms in Virginia such as:
        * Universal background checks and closing the “gun show loophole”
        * A ban on assault-style weapons
        * Reforming Virginia’s mental health system so that children and adolescents who need help are identified and get the services they need.

        Did you get that? That's from Herring's website, on campaign letterhead, accessed today, May 1, 2014: Universal background checks. A ban on assault-style weapons. Mental health reform.

        The NRA gave Mark Herring only a 17% approval rating, it gave his GOP opponent a 92% approval rating. And Herring won.

        What's striking is not only that those who repeat NRA talking points assert things that are not true, it's their seeming conviction in doing so, and the repetition of it. The broadest concern of seeing these talking points on DailyKos is that it lowers our credibility as a whole, especially for readers who have not encountered them before.

    •  That's because folks such as you and James (1+ / 0-)
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      Yeagar would go apoplectic about "innocent Americans losing the second amendment rights. You remember Yeagar, right:

      Of course you do, you're like two peas in pod.

      "Looking back over a lifetime, you see that love was the answer to everything." — Ray Bradbury

      by We Shall Overcome on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 05:24:34 PM PDT

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