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  •  I doubt he will dial them back, given they were (9+ / 0-)

    comments made behind closed doors.

    "If the Jew who struggles for justice for Palestine is considered anti-Semitic, & if Palestinians seeking self-determination are so accused...then no oppositional move can take place w/o risking the accusation." - Judith Butler

    by David Harris Gershon on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 06:55:58 AM PDT

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    •  Great; wonder who leaked them to the worst (1+ / 0-)
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      neocons around to use as ammo?

      Sure once I was young and impulsive, I wore every conceivable pin. Even went to socialist meetings, learned all the old union hymns. Ah, but I've grown older and wiser. And that's why I'm turning you in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 01:22:00 PM PDT

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      •  Exactly what I was wondering (1+ / 0-)
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        Whoever it was has an interest in the status quo.

        Since nobody really benefits from the status quo, it puzzles me.

        I think Israel (and/or AIPAC) has a large and problematic influence on our foreign policy and legislation as it relates to Iran and the Middle East. Since I've been hidden for saying this, I expect to be hidden every time I post with this sig.

        by Black Mare on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 01:38:30 PM PDT

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        •  People who sell weapons do, I guess. (2+ / 0-)
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          And there's probably people who believe they benefit, even if they don't.

          Sure once I was young and impulsive, I wore every conceivable pin. Even went to socialist meetings, learned all the old union hymns. Ah, but I've grown older and wiser. And that's why I'm turning you in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

          by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 01:50:27 PM PDT

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        •  Maybe certain Arab states? (1+ / 0-)
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          That's a seriously dark cynical way of thinking, though.

          Sure once I was young and impulsive, I wore every conceivable pin. Even went to socialist meetings, learned all the old union hymns. Ah, but I've grown older and wiser. And that's why I'm turning you in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

          by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 01:51:06 PM PDT

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          •  Maybe dark and cynical, but (1+ / 0-)
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            not at all beyond possibility :-(

            I think Israel (and/or AIPAC) has a large and problematic influence on our foreign policy and legislation as it relates to Iran and the Middle East. Since I've been hidden for saying this, I expect to be hidden every time I post with this sig.

            by Black Mare on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 02:05:12 PM PDT

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            •  Well, let's just say I hope not. (0+ / 0-)

              Sure once I was young and impulsive, I wore every conceivable pin. Even went to socialist meetings, learned all the old union hymns. Ah, but I've grown older and wiser. And that's why I'm turning you in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

              by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 02:10:26 PM PDT

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      •  A much better question, given (0+ / 0-)

        the Beltway Consensus:

        Who woudn't have leaked it?

        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

        by corvo on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 03:46:23 PM PDT

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        •  The Consensus is a little shakier these days (0+ / 0-)

          than usual.

          AIPAC has suffered two losses in recent days, and, from what I hear, they ain't happy.

          Sure once I was young and impulsive, I wore every conceivable pin. Even went to socialist meetings, learned all the old union hymns. Ah, but I've grown older and wiser. And that's why I'm turning you in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

          by SouthernLiberalinMD on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 08:47:26 AM PDT

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          •  Not so sure AIPAC has lost on this one. (1+ / 0-)
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            Kerry has already issued a retraction/apology.  His head may yet roll, who knows.

            Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

            by corvo on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 10:32:07 AM PDT

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            •  Talking about the wars in Syria and Iran (0+ / 0-)

              we're supposed to be fighting already.

              Sure once I was young and impulsive, I wore every conceivable pin. Even went to socialist meetings, learned all the old union hymns. Ah, but I've grown older and wiser. And that's why I'm turning you in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

              by SouthernLiberalinMD on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 04:38:31 PM PDT

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              •  But we are fighting them already. (0+ / 0-)

                Just not with ground troops.

                Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                by corvo on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 08:09:39 PM PDT

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                •  Some would call that a more than slight difference (1+ / 0-)
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                  in situations.

                  "Stay close to the candles....the staircase can be treacherous" (-8.38,-8.51)

                  by JNEREBEL on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 09:07:09 AM PDT

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                  •  situations, yes; intentions, no. n/t (0+ / 0-)

                    Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                    by corvo on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 09:26:59 AM PDT

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                    •  Disagree. Intentions are certainly magnified (1+ / 0-)
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                      when one's own ground troops are involved.

                      "Stay close to the candles....the staircase can be treacherous" (-8.38,-8.51)

                      by JNEREBEL on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:17:11 AM PDT

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                      •  you confuse degree with kind n/t (0+ / 0-)

                        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                        by corvo on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:31:32 AM PDT

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