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  •  Personal computer took a lot (4+ / 0-)

    email ate a LOT of jobs.....not high-paying jobs, but decent enough for a second job as an admin assistant, or secretary as we called it in the old days.  Management writes and send their own stuff nowadays.

    In the 1980's, I heard more people than I can count bemoan the "middle man" we began to get rid of him.  Direct purchasing once the internet was established.

    And I still remember the push for "contract work" in the 1980's......."make your own schedule!"  "work only when you want!"  "no bossman breathing down your neck!"

    And once techies made it a fucking badge of honor to work all night, it became expected.

    I have so little sympathy for the workers who fell for all that shit.  They are in their 50's now and struggling.  I hope they have the good sense to reverse some of that for their kids through their voting and spending habits.

    Listening to the NRA on school safety is like listening to the tobacco companies on cigarette safety. (h/t nightsweat)

    by PsychoSavannah on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 09:14:50 AM PDT

    •  That is just the beginning of what automation (8+ / 0-)

      is doing to employment. The robots are coming.

    •  PCs took out a lot more than admin assistants (6+ / 0-)

      My career is in financial planning - and "productivity" is probably 5x what it was when I started 40 years ago - that is, I can do now what used to take 5+ people to do, thanks to PC tools.

      Jobs that have been lost:
      admin assistants, as you noted
      email and calendar management
      filing & records management
      data entry
      financial analysis
      presentation preparation
      entry level management
      report preparation
      systems & programming
      technical data analysis & statistics
      accounting analysts / "bookkeepers"

      And we travel much less - so there go travel offices & support, as well as the hotels & restaurants we used to use

      And I'm sure there are many, many more in almost every white collar career path.

      Gone the way of buggy whips & carbon paper.

    •  That is true (4+ / 0-)

      as well as other technology including the Internet, digital photography, and file sharing.

      There used to be a plethora of creative jobs that no longer exist for pay because so many people do them for free. I want to shake any young person who tells me they're majoring in communications, journalism or photography, because all those things are basically hobbies now, even less career-sustaining than my theater major many decades ago.

      Did you know 20% of all the photos ever taken were taken in the last year? That one made my jaw drop. I did concert and music photography as a career in the ’80, but that would be impossible now.

      As for people in their 50s, it doesn't matter what they fell for or didn't fall for — most are struggling, even if they opted for a "stable" career like teaching or civil service work. Not sure what you mean by "spending habits," but it's not the spending of the middle class that's the problem. The fact that they can't is a huge problem and will get worse.

      Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it.

      by anastasia p on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 11:18:41 AM PDT

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