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  •  GOP donors are no fools. (4+ / 0-)

    They don't like their millions flushed down the drain.

    They must have hinted Boehner and establishment, "don't come to us asking for millions for your nominee when he does not even have a legit shot presidency without some Latinos voting for him. "

    Kochs like to waste millions on a losing cause but not other GOP donors.

    •  Sure he does, the nominee that is. (4+ / 0-)

      Win the south, win those Reagan-Democrat states, you're all set.  Where is this mythical purple state where Hispanics could put Republicans over the top?  The closest I'm getting is Colorado and that's a huge stretch.

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      by Rich in PA on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 11:29:16 AM PDT

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      •  Immigration reform is a gateway issue. (8+ / 0-)

        Sure, Latinos are not going to vote for GOP in droves if they voted for Immigration reform tomorrow.

        But GOP cannot reach to them on ANY issue right now.

        Passing immigration reform is bare minimum, first step that GOP has to take right now.

        Then they can think of Latino outreach.

        Or some form form of Immigration reform + Jeb Bush and Latina wife might do the trick (this might be their thinking)

      •  The youngest Reagan-Democrats (9+ / 0-)

        who actually voted for Reagan will be 50 in 2016. That 50+ group is hardly a growing demographic - or a path to the future for the TeaOP.

        I think the mythical purple states where the GOP needs the Hispanic vote are Texas and Arizona. The way demographics are changing, only ever-increasing voter suppression will keep them in GOP hands.

        Election Day is Nov 4th, 2014 It's time for the Undo button on the 2010 Election.

        by bear83 on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 01:28:05 PM PDT

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        •  Exactly and back in 80, when I was out GOTV for (1+ / 0-)
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          Carter and Democrats, as I had been doing 4 yrs previously, on a college campus and in the college town and outskirts, most of the so called Reagan Democrats were not college students but maybe their parents or grandparents.

          My parents and my dad's veterans and post office buddies at work were not Reagan Democrats at all..they all voted for Carter and then blasted Reagan for 8 yrs for union busting, same with my grandfather who was a coal miner in western PA.

          I think most  of those Reagan Democrats were non union and a bit older..certainly not most of the college students , grad students or their parents at that time..that we could see.

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          by wishingwell on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 02:02:53 PM PDT

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      •  Most of the Reagan (4+ / 0-)

        Democrats have gone on to their great reward. They were all middle aged in 1980, that's like 35 years ago...also try Texas, South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, even Utah for god's sake is going to go blue in the next 10 or 15 years, mostly if not exclusively because of the Hispanic vote.

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