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  •  What those making the "admitting priveliges" (26+ / 0-)

    argument are ignoring is obvious to anyone in the medical profession. Most doctors no longer admit to hospitals. The hospitals have hospitalists and some groups of specialists on staff. None of our local primary care physicians admit any more.

    Patients are admitted through the emergency room, which triages them.Go to the emergency room where you will be screened, given emergency intervention if necessary, and then either sent home or admitted, where the first doctor you see is a hosptalist. Those are usually internists, who then consult whatever specialist seems appropriate.

    That even includes psychiatric patients. For example, a psychiatric patient can no longer walk up to the admissions desk of a psychiatric hospital and get admitted, even if they are overtly and floridly psychotic. Those patients are like anyone else. They are interviewed and evaluated in the ER by a mental health specialist, who is most likely going to be a clinical social worker.

    Rudeness is a weak imitation of strength. - Eric Hoffer

    by Otteray Scribe on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 11:17:46 AM PDT

    •  how that applies to the statute (2+ / 0-)
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      - where does Mississippi's legislative record show an evaluation of complications from abortions broken out by doctors with admitting privileges or not?

      - what other outpatient surgical procedures of comparable risk (for sake of argument, Lasik or vasectomies or something) are performed by physicians without admitting privileges?  What evidence is there Mississippi compared complication rates?  

      I think even Judge Jolly gets that it's pretext when it's the last clinic in the state that'd stay open but for this reg, so therefore it's entirely appropriate to look at what factual findings actually support this reg as an application of health protection.  There they will find none.  With a protected right, "truthiness" doesn't cut it.  

      Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

      by Loge on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 02:54:22 PM PDT

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    •  I was not aware of this. It should be publicized. (4+ / 0-)
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      How many Mississippi doctors have "admitting privileges"?  If the answer is NONE...or only a few...this should show what a sham the "law" is.

      "Evil is a lack of empathy, a total incapacity to feel with their fellow man." - Capt. Gilbert,Psychiatrist, at the end of Nuremberg trials.

      by 417els on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 03:09:30 PM PDT

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      •  Sham is the right word. Check out this... (6+ / 0-)

        ...excerpt from a post I wrote 13 months ago:

        In a state with a black population of 37 percent, the 11-member health board has one African American member. It would have had two if Republican Lt. Gov. Tate Reeves hadn't kept the nomination of OB/GYN Dr. Carl Reddix from reaching the Senate Health Committee for confirmation last April. Then-Gov. Haley Barbour, also a Republican, had appointed Reddix to fill an unexpected vacancy on the board in the summer of 2011. Reddix served in that post until Reeves's action got him removed 10 months later.

        Reddix was ousted because he had agreed over a decade to provide emergency services to the state's only remaining abortion clinic, the Jackson Women's Health Organization. Reeves's spokewoman said at the time "he felt that [Reddix's] association with the abortion clinic was not appropriate in a role that would shape health policy for the state." Reeves said he wanted a qualified physician instead.

        Reddix, born in the Mississippi coastal city of Biloxi 54 years ago, graduated from Tougaloo College, then earned degrees from Tufts University School of Medicine and Harvard University. He completed his residency at Johns Hopkins Hospital. Clearly short in the qualifications department. His role for the clinic was straightforward. He didn't ever provide an abortion, but he was ready to provide emergency help if something went medically wrong. He says he was called upon only a couple of times to do so in all the years he agreed to help if the need arose.

        The real problem with Reddix was that he had "admitting privileges" at a local hospital. The legislature last year passed a law that requires abortion clinics to hire only those physicians with hospital admitting privileges, a medically unnecessary practice, as a means by which to close the state's last remaining abortion clinic. North Dakota Gov. Jack Dalrymple just signed a similar law designed to close that state's last abortion clinic in Fargo. Read about Reddix's views below the fold.

        Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

        by Meteor Blades on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 03:55:31 PM PDT

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    •  Excellent point. Unless Mississippi (2+ / 0-)
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      is different from every other state, the demand they're making is for something that doesn't even exist anymore.

      Proud to be a Democrat

      by Lying eyes on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 05:51:13 PM PDT

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