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  •  Right... (6+ / 0-)

    ...except that if the cable industry had transitioned over to IPTV years ago, they'd have far more last-mile throughput available, and at the end of the day, this is the content that their customers are requesting that falls well within the limits of service Comcast, Verizon, and others have sold them.

    Going back and trying to claw money from Netflix is unprecedented from a content provider/creator's standpoint when looked at from the consumer side of things.  Frankly, since Comcast doesn't throttle their own Netflix competitor or count its data against the 250 GB monthly cap, there's an anti-trust argument to be made as well, using the same argument that was used with Microsoft in the '90s in the browser wars.

    And finally, Comcast can either choose to peer more traffic and reinvest some of the 90%+ profit margin they're making, or pay some of it out to the likes of Cogent and Level 3....or pay Netflix a lesser rate to interconnect, rather than vice versa.

    This arrangement helps Comcast and Verizon far more than it does Netflix -- yet Netflix is the one being forced to pay for it.  It doesn't just upend the ISP model as we've known it, but it's upending the Cable model as we know it and giving us as consumers a raw deal.

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    by The Technomancer on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 09:53:38 AM PDT

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    •  having discussed that aspect before (0+ / 0-)

      I think you know that I only have loathing and insults for the ISPs. They've wasted time and money for obscene profits.

      However that doesn't excuse what Netflix is doing either. Pushing 30% and climbing of the internet's traffic is going to break any peer agreement and frankly peer agreements are probably dead in the water where over the top video is concerned. However I don't see anything approaching a true impingement on network neutrality as it stands with what prompted this.

      If comcast is truly only applying the cap to netflix than that is a case I think that needs to be brought before the FCC but that's different from what is going on here.

      Der Weg ist das Ziel

      by duhban on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:04:45 AM PDT

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      •  Right... (6+ / 0-)

        ...but Netflix doesn't sign the peering agreements.  It's ISP/ISPs do.  Comcast sold the ability to access that content to their customers -- if I'm remembering correctly, at one point Comcast had a free month promo going with Netflix prior to cord-cutting getting popular.

        Comcast is looking at the cost of transporting a GB of data rising from under 2 pennies a GB to slightly less under 2 pennies a GB to an end user if they have to start settling up their peering agreements.

        Netflix/Comcast/Verizon is really more of a consumer issue than an NN issue, but it does tie into NN because of the throttling aspect and the anti-competitive practices involved.  It's hard to compete with the owner of the pipe if the owner of the pipe can also own content creators.

        Everyday Magic

        Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
        -- Clarke's Third Law

        by The Technomancer on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:11:51 AM PDT

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        •  I'm sorry I don't agree (0+ / 0-)

          I don't see the Netflix issue as anti-competition at all currently. I would be a bit troubled in the case that you mention about selective capping but even there 250 gigs is a pretty big number. I'm sure there will and are people that reach that amount but even then you're looking at a movie a day with those caps. Is that high enough? Not sure, personally I think caps should be higher but it seems like a side issue here.

          Der Weg ist das Ziel

          by duhban on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:19:49 AM PDT

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          •  Not really (1+ / 0-)

            but there are some who will try their level best to make it one.

            it seems like a side issue here.
            It is THE issue. It's sad that you disagree with so many others on this.  
             

            This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

            by lunachickie on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 11:18:13 AM PDT

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