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  •  The people making those comments, would you (7+ / 0-)

    say they are "reasonable and moderate"?

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 09:02:19 AM PDT

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    •  Who walks into a grocery or Home Depot and thinks, (8+ / 0-)

      'You know...I could blow up a lot of shit with the things I see here!'

      Crazy people.

      •  Also, people who paid attention in high school. (0+ / 0-)

        High school chemistry taught how to easily figure out what stuff would interact 'vigorously' with other stuff. It's all about the atoms, and the periodic table is common knowledge. It's such basic info that it was on the inside cover of the textbook.

        Natrium, 1 electron in the outer orbiting shell. This is basic level chemistry.
        Chlorine, lacking 1 electron for a stable-full outer orbiting shell. Also basic level chemistry. You'll find the common combination of those two atoms on grocery store shelves called "Salt".

        Salt melts at a bit over 1500F. This is commonly found knowledge. People need to know this because molten salt is figuring HIGHLY in the struggle to switch to renewables in the form of solar heat being stored in underground insulated tanks as melted salt until nightfall when the liquid NaCl is routed through a heat exchanger to turn hydroelectric turbines, creating electricity that is carbon-zero and also nuclear-zero.

        But once you get into this basic level of scientific understanding, you also become aware that half of salt is natrium (sodium) and it explodes in water. Demonstrations of this are done in classrooms all the time. Also, the other half is chlorine and it is a poisonous gas. Classroom labs have ventilation hoods for a reason, and this is one of those reasons.

        So, add to your list the line
        "High school chemistry students"

        That's who else can walk into a home depot/lowes or a grocery store and thinks about the chemicals on the shelves.

        •  Right. There are many ways to kill. (0+ / 0-)

          So we should throw up our hands -- and add as many more ways to kill as possible.

          Not all murders can be prevented, so we should repeal the prohibitions against murder.

          This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain.

          by JJustin on Wed May 07, 2014 at 09:44:10 PM PDT

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    •  Of course not, (0+ / 0-)

      but resorting to childish insults just makes us all look less credible to people that otherwise could be convinced to support new gun control legislation.

      •  If one has to be 'convinced' (7+ / 0-)

        that this shit should have restrictions on it, then I seriously have to question that person's sanity.  

        This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

        by DisNoir36 on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 09:48:42 AM PDT

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        •  Well that is reality whether you like it or not. (1+ / 0-)
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          We can make rational, adult arguments for our cause or we can act like little kids and get nothing done.

          This is why I really try not to engage in gun control discussions. The rhetoric from both sides regarding this one particular topic is toxic, broken, and incredibly frustrating to comb through. And it's strange that "our side" seems to only act this way with regards to guns.

          •  We can both make rational, adult arguments -- (0+ / 0-)

            substantiated as to truth -- and call a spade a spade as a heads-up to the general public who have right to the warning:

            Gun-nuts, who reject the Constitution at the same time they claim that same Constitution protects a gun right -- are gun-nuts.

            By so doing they subvert the rule of law, therefore at very least deserve to be insulted.

            The toxicity, the poison, is from gun-nuts, who insist that they have a right to threaten public safety.  The least they deserve is to be called what they are: gun-nuts.

            This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain.

            by JJustin on Wed May 07, 2014 at 09:53:01 PM PDT

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      •  People who are nuts should be identified as such (0+ / 0-)

        as a warning and service to those who deserve the heads up.

        Those who reject the Constitution, based upon a false claim of a gun right protected by that same Constitution, are gun-nuts.

        Gun-nuts offend reason, and undermine the rule of law.  The least they deserve as result is to be insulted.

        This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain.

        by JJustin on Wed May 07, 2014 at 09:47:13 PM PDT

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