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  •  It does not appear that this problem was related (0+ / 0-)

    to the drugs.

    Apparently there was some kind of problem with the needle insertion into Lockett's veins.

    •  Really? (0+ / 0-)

      Do you know what drugs were used? Do you know where the drugs came from? What country and what pharmacy? Do you know the amounts used of each and in what dosages over time?

      I ask because NO ONE knows these things: that is the exact reason for the lawsuits and appeals requesting stays of execution. So I am not sure how you can claim to KNOW that the "problem", also know as Lockett's prolonged seizing gasping death to those of us not seeking to minimize the "problem", was not a direct result of the drugs used.

      I suppose since the people performing the execution immediately announced it was just a "problem" with Lockett's veins, with no objective investigation or consideration of whether the collapsed veins would also result from this drug cocktail and no consideration of how much prolonged pain would be caused, the matter should be considered settled and we should all just move along.

      You will have to forgive me if I don't consider Oklahoma officials pronouncement credible or convincing in the slightest.

      Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves. -Thoreau

      by CenPhx on Thu May 01, 2014 at 11:41:43 AM PDT

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      •  You obviously have reading comprehension problems (0+ / 0-)
        So I am not sure how you can claim to KNOW that the "problem", also know as Lockett's prolonged seizing gasping death to those of us not seeking to minimize the "problem", was not a direct result of the drugs used.
        Of course, I did not "claim to KNOW that the "problem", also know as Lockett's prolonged seizing gasping death to those of us not seeking to minimize the "problem", was not a direct result of the drugs used".

        Suggest you reread what I wrote and then find a dictionary and look up the word "appeared".

        I suppose since the people performing the execution immediately announced it was just a "problem" with Lockett's veins, with no objective investigation or consideration of whether the collapsed veins would also result from this drug cocktail and no consideration of how much prolonged pain would be caused, the matter should be considered settled and we should all just move along.
        You are welcome to consider that.  I think there should still be an investigation.  However, unlike you, I do not assume as a default that the state of Oklahoma is lying to us.  Unless someone provides a reasonable argument that they are I am going to assume that we are getting more or less true facts.
        You will have to forgive me if I don't consider Oklahoma officials pronouncement credible or convincing in the slightest.
        And I think that's your problem - you know what you want the answer to be, so any statement by the state that disagrees has to be a lie.

        In actual fact, the description of the events seems to fit quite well with the needle not being properly in a vein or the vein having ruptured or collapsed so the drugs did not enter Lockett's blood stream quickly as intended but instead slowly entered into his metabolism and killed him much more slowly than intended.

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