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  •  Voters today are confused (0+ / 0-)

    They keep electing Democrats, but nothing improves, or so I've been told by quite a few of them.

    Money is property, not speech. Overturn Citizens United.

    by Betty Pinson on Thu May 01, 2014 at 01:04:10 PM PDT

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    •  To get an idea what electing Democrats means (0+ / 0-)

      I look at the Senate in
      1933 - 59 Democrats
      1935 - 69 Democrat
      1937 - 76 Democrats
      1939 - 69 Democrats
      There were 96 seats in the Senate in those years.

      In the House:
      1933 - 313 Democrats
      1935 - 321 Democrat
      1937 - 334 Democrats
      1939 - 262 Democrats
      There were 435 seats

      In 2009, the Senate started with 56 Democrats. There were 58 when Spector swiitched and Franken was seated 6 months after the session began. By that point Ted Kennedy had about 6 weeks left in him.  The 58 Democrats + 2 Independents = 60 for Cloture since the Republicans were filibustering everything.

      1 of the Independents was Lieberman.

      The following January, in the special election, the Massachusetts voters did not elect a Democrat. The November after that, the voters did not elect Democrats.

      We have two parties. The choice is never Republican and neither is staying home. With just two parties, a majority means the caucus stretches from an extreme to the center + 1. I'd never expect everyone across that broad spectrum to agree with me, but together we could get some things done.

      •  Please no patronizing or sexism for that matter (1+ / 0-)
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        Mark Lippman

        I've been an active Democrat probably since you were in grade school.

        The current state of the US economy, oligarchy and the hamstrung, sold out  Democratic party is like nothing we've seen in the last 50 years or so. Check the polls. Our leadership has sold out to big money donors and is no longer willing to govern. They keep lying to voters instead of fixing the economy.

        No, Dem leadership today is abase, ignorant group. Theyre better than Republicans, but still woefully subpar and crooked. They're going to lose if they dont start fixing problems.

        Get busy instead of lecturing the base. Tell your bosses to STFU and get to work or be replaced.

        Money is property, not speech. Overturn Citizens United.

        by Betty Pinson on Thu May 01, 2014 at 08:27:29 PM PDT

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        •  Your comments stand out and I respect them. (1+ / 0-)
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          Betty Pinson

          I have no reason to patronize. I was feeling defensive  

          I hope you will accept my apology. I am truly sorry.

          •  No problem (3+ / 0-)
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            Mark Lippman, jbsoul, orlbucfan

            I'm trying to find tactful ways to encourage other loyal Dems like myself to take an honest look at our current party leadership and find ways to fix the problems.

            Judging from conversations I've had with fellow Dems, I'm not alone with concerns about the coopting of the party by big money donors and Wall Street crooks.  

            Money is property, not speech. Overturn Citizens United.

            by Betty Pinson on Fri May 02, 2014 at 07:04:30 AM PDT

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