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  •  Yeah, I'm not laying blame on whose fault... (8+ / 0-)

    ...it was.  Even Microsoft was the first major action since the breakup of AT&T.  We've been going down this slope for a while, and in multiple industries.  It's been like this for decades.

    Everyday Magic

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
    -- Clarke's Third Law

    by The Technomancer on Thu May 01, 2014 at 08:39:58 PM PDT

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    •  true and a lot of it comes from the legislative (2+ / 0-)

      side.

      That said I'm interested in Wheeler's recent actions against price alliances and his statement about invalidating bans on municipal broadband. But I'll talk more about that tomorrow. For now I get to go to a meeting......yay me

      Der Weg ist das Ziel

      by duhban on Thu May 01, 2014 at 08:50:43 PM PDT

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      •  Break it up how? (2+ / 0-)
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        By region?  I've been really happy with AT&T's network.  My phone works from Hawaii to Key West to New York, I don't ever have to worry about roaming like in the old days, and my bill went down $600 this year.  What is a break up supposed to accomplish?

        •  It levels the playing field for others? (5+ / 0-)

          Seriously, I'm glad you're happy with AT&T. Just keep in mind that not everyone is, not by a long shot.

          This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

          by lunachickie on Fri May 02, 2014 at 11:58:35 AM PDT

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          •  Why not? (0+ / 0-)

            I remember paying $50 per month for something like 100 minutes for my wife's first phone. And no texting. I went without at that deal.

            Now $50 gets me unlimited talk, text and 1GB of data. And it's 14 years later. What's the complaint?

            •  For starters (3+ / 0-)

              I can get a better deal from Virgin Mobile. 35 bucks a month gets me 300 nationwide minutes of talk (which I don't even come close to using, for a number of reasons); and unlimited text and data.

              Do you really think that just because you're happy with AT&T that everyone else should be as well? Wow...

              This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

              by lunachickie on Fri May 02, 2014 at 07:20:29 PM PDT

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              •  You just proved competition works. (0+ / 0-)

                If you can get a better deal elsewhere, then AT&T doesn't have a monopoly. What do you care then what they do.

                •  We're not talking about phone monopolies, Norm. (0+ / 0-)

                  We're talking about cable monopolies.

                  I know, it's hard to keep it all straight for now. But see, when AT&T gets their way, this is what happens--they buy up everything. It's time for that to be stopped, else you'll never have to worry about who controls what, it'll be all AT&T.

                  THAT is why I care what they do, Norm.

                  Now, here's the question you were actually asked, Norm--how about answering it, already?

                  Do you really think that just because you're happy with AT&T that everyone else should be as well?

                  This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

                  by lunachickie on Sun May 04, 2014 at 07:25:57 PM PDT

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                  •  I thought it was Comcast buying everything? (0+ / 0-)

                    If you're talking about cable monopolies, that's Comcast.  AT&T just has that crappy Uverse.

                    And sure, I'll answer that ridiculous question.  No, I don't expect everyone to have the exact same opinion as me.  Everyone else can hate AT&T for all I care.  And I don't even like AT&T for everything.  I only get cell service from AT&T.  But like I said, I'm getting way more per dollar now than I ever was for a cell phone.

                    So you don't have to like them, but I also, on the cell phone side, don't see anything to hate.

            •  AT&T's been evil for a long long time and I have (1+ / 0-)
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              no desire to give up my grudge against them for their crummy monopoly days before the internet and cell phones, back when everybody had to have a landline run by AT&T. I'm not one to hold long grudges, but AT&T isn't winning me over so easy.

              I'm glad you're happy with them, and clearly the legislation and not the company itself created the rules, written and unwritten that now motivate AT&T to give you the deal you like.

              At this point, I hate Google more, and I'm not sure which other corps I hate more than AT&T but I'm sure there's a handful.

              Rent this funny film from the late '60's: The President's Analyst. The use of AT&T as the ultimate spying powerhouse puppetmaster is quite hilarious comic genius in a terrific satire of who really pulls the strings behinds politicians and countries, even the fictional President's psychotherapist has his head spinning.

            •  What good is 1 GB of data (0+ / 0-)

              on a smart phone?  By the way texting costs the carriers nothing. People don't talk on their phones as much anymore. Unlimited data plans are what convinced me the usefulness of smartphones vs simpler feature phones. Expensive data caps on powerful smartphones whose major selling point is data hungry media apps makes no sense for the consumer. Now that americans played along with paying more for less data (formally unlimited plans for $40 vs $50 for 4 GB) mobile phone carriers have people by the shorthairs. With zero rated apps the fix is in.
              Step 1-Convince people of the usefulness of a smartphone by offering affordable unlimited data plans.
              Step 2-After everyone is convinced they can't live without a smartphone get rid of unlimited data and replace it with more expensive capped data plans.
              Step 3- Offer zero rate apps tied to the carrier or partners and push out any competition because data is capped.

              I still have my grandfathered verizon unlimited data plan.  When Verizon eliminates the grandfathered plans entirely I will get rid of my smartphone and get a feature phone.

              •  I can live without a smart phone. (0+ / 0-)

                I have a router at home, and Internet at work. I hardly ever have a desire to surf the web when I'm out. Certainly not going to stream video. 1GB does just fine. I also could have kept my unlimited data plan, but I wasn't using it, so I switched and saved money.

                I just love how "convince them they can't live without it" turns into an entitlement.

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