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  •  The worst relative to his seat's PVI? (8+ / 0-)
    McIntyre (worst Dem in congress)
    Because guess what - Losing him wasn't a good thing for us. They get to replace him with someone even more conservative who won't vote for Democratic leadership in the house and won't be pressurable to vote 'yes' on any important legislation.
    •  actually (2+ / 0-)
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      incognita, stevenaxelrod

      McIntyre dissed both Obama and Pelosi when he ran 2 years ago--telling people he didn't approve of their actions.  Basically, he destroyed the reputation of all Democrats.  Either you protect your brand, or you quit.  He realized that at least 4 years too late.

      Actions speak louder than petitions.

      by melvynny on Mon May 05, 2014 at 05:28:11 PM PDT

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      •  Criticizing Pelosi.. (6+ / 0-)

        .. (or Obama for that matter) is hardly an unusual thing for a Democrat in a conservative district to do, and it has served a bunch of them well, electorally.

        Claiming that a single Democratic congressman "destroyed the reputation of all Democrats" by engaging in some Pelosi-baiting in a conservative district seems more than a little overblown.

        Arguing that every Democratic member of Congress has to "protect their brand or quit" goes against a long tradition of heterodoxy in the Democratic Party, which allows members of the caucus - not just on the right, but also the left flank of the party - to criticize the party leaders and President when they feel those have gone astray. I'd say it has served the party well.

        •  long run (1+ / 0-)
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          If the Rs no longer have a big tent, their focus demands more  loyalty from Dems.  Not ideal--but going on tv criticizing your team's big players hurts the ticket--while getting you elected.  Add to that the polarizing right wing media, and many Americans see this as proof that Obama is out to destroy America.

          Actions speak louder than petitions.

          by melvynny on Tue May 06, 2014 at 06:44:42 AM PDT

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          •  Don't agree really (0+ / 0-)

            Way I see it, the Dems have been winning elections (in '06, '08 and '12) because they did remain a big tent, at the exact time that the GOP became an ever smaller one, enforcing ideological discipline and purging politicians who weren't doctrinary enough. That's an advantage the Dems have. Going down the same route of "focus and loyalty" as the GOP in this regard would come down to actively giving up that advantage.

            I admit it's also a matter of temperament for me though. I've never liked the one party, one leader, one message style - think it's creepy. And let's not forget that the big tent attitude allows dissent within the party from the left as well as the right.

      •  the swing voters he needed despised Obama (5+ / 0-)

        they voted for McCain & Romney.

        ...to the philosopher it is iron and grain that made men civilized and brought on the downfall of the human race. - Rousseau, Discourse on the Origins of Inequality Among Men

        by James Allen on Mon May 05, 2014 at 07:03:21 PM PDT

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