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  •  With the Explore test we do get question level (2+ / 0-)
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    data which is helpful and we get it within a month or so.  As a teacher, I support the Explore, Plan and ACT exams.  They are useful, transparent, and timely. The exams only take a couple of days, and they aren't disruptive.

    The week-long standardized, high stakes tests?  We don't even get the results until well into the Fall of the next year.  

    Plutocracy (noun) Greek ploutokratia, from ploutos wealth; 1) government by the wealthy; 2) 21st c. U.S.A.; 3) 22nd c. The World

    by bkamr on Fri May 09, 2014 at 03:48:05 AM PDT

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    •  I was thinking (2+ / 0-)
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      mostly about the use of these tests to grade teachers on how well they're doing.   I noted in a comment above that the American Statistical Association has cautioned against using the tests in this way.  In some cases they found that schools were grading teachers work based on the test results of students they didn't have.

      But on what you're saying, I asked a teacher about results for one of my child's MCAS tests (Massachusetts) and she said she couldn't tell me anything.  She didn't have access to the test questions or my child's answer and could not say why she got the score that she did.

      •  That is somewhat true about the state standardized (3+ / 0-)
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        exams, but not the Explore and Plan tests in the ACT series.  The Explore and Plan have breakdowns by content/ skill and the students get these detailed reports back within 60 days.  

        The state standardized exams don't get returned until the following Fall!  And, teachers are supposed to even look at the questions ... while we are supposed to circulate upa dn down and all around the entire 6 days ... making sure none of the children are bubbling in the wrong sections of the exams ... while somehow not READING anything we are looking at.  If by chance we do accidently see a question, then we can not tell ANYONE anything or use the knowledge to inform any of our teaching -- or we could lose our licenses and/ or be thrown in jail.  So, your child's teacher was telling you exactly what she is/ was supposed to say.

        If you want to see Pearson's (or any of the other test companys' high stakes state tests), you can schedule time with the state board of education, drive there, relinquish any devices, may not take notes, and will have to sign a non-disclosure, to see the test your child took.

        Nice gig the testing companies have, isn't it?  To to the tune of $4.5 BILLION in tax dollars and NO ONE who is allowed to see their products is allowed to say one word about their products.

        So, were is their proof that their products are valid and/ or reliable?  Who is holding the testing companies accountable?

        No one.  That's who.

        Plutocracy (noun) Greek ploutokratia, from ploutos wealth; 1) government by the wealthy; 2) 21st c. U.S.A.; 3) 22nd c. The World

        by bkamr on Fri May 09, 2014 at 04:44:10 PM PDT

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