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  •  Tornado Missile Protection - public comment open (9+ / 0-)

    In today's FR, Nuclear Regulatory Commission  extends the comment period on draft guidance addressing what Tornado Missile Protection requirements U.S. nuclear plants should address.

    http://www.gpo.gov/...

    Nuclear Regulatory Commission 'thumps' Daniel Wilson, former Chemist at Entergy's Indian Point Nuclear Plant by barring him from NRC-related activities for one year in a case where he falsified chemistry analytical reports addressing fuel used for emergency backup generators at the Indian Point Plant:

    http://www.gpo.gov/...

    •  Barred Despite glowing reviews nt (7+ / 0-)

      I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

      by JML9999 on Thu May 08, 2014 at 08:47:41 PM PDT

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      •  Any technical person or union employee (4+ / 0-)
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        who thinks they are doing their employer or themselves a favor by falsifying environmental and process reports and analysis risk criminal prosecution and jail time.  

        For example, about the only time anyone goes to jail under the Clean Air Act is if they are involved in falsifying a report or making a false statement to EPA or State air agencies.
        They don't send the CEO to jail for that particular kind of falsification...they send the worker-grunt to jail.

    •  You don't want tornado missiles harming (5+ / 0-)
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      emergency backup generators since a tornado is also capable of affecting off-site plant electrical power access as well.

      Losing off-site power and not having emergency backup generator capability = big problems for an operating nuclear plant.

      •  Problems with nuclear plants: rising oceans would (1+ / 0-)
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        seem to be a pretty big problem since the US alone has 16 active plants on the oceans. Then there's the alteration of Lake levels and Riverbeds over time. If fairly rapidly in a climate-change time, it wouldn't be a surprise.

        The best I've heard from anyone on this is 'Holland has had dykes for centuries.' That was the best, and they weren't joking. You can tell how much consideration has gone into the matter. We live in a day where no one in a responsible position seems able to connect any one thing with any other thing.


        A government is a body of people usually notably ungoverned. -- Firefly

        by Jim P on Thu May 08, 2014 at 10:37:44 PM PDT

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        •  The primary issue with that are the locations (1+ / 0-)
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          that were built like Fukushima...where the water flooded the basements of the reactor buildings wiping out electrical controls and operability.   Those units were built on a cutout of the shoreline bluff so the critical structures were compromised by a Tsunami.    

          Which of the 16 plants are not built on a bluff in a manner without sufficient vertical elevation to avoid ocean water intrusion from whatever cause?

          •  How high do the seas rise? The projection (2+ / 0-)
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            seems to be at least a meter in the 'non-catastrophic' scenario. iirc that projection has been doubled based on experience in the last few years, so who really knows?

            Even in the 'happy' instance, you'd have to expect cooling intake points and the related plumbing to be compromised if not destroyed. 16 is the number of active plants on the Oceans; there are more with cores but not in business. And then, more nations than the US with plants near the shore.

            Too, a meter or more rise might not directly flood a plant on a bluff, but it could make the bluff an island, depending on the nearby elevations. I'd think even one nuke swamped would be trouble, but also that there'd be more than one vulnerable plant.


            A government is a body of people usually notably ungoverned. -- Firefly

            by Jim P on Thu May 08, 2014 at 11:06:16 PM PDT

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        •  The entire idea of Holland would probably not be (3+ / 0-)
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          feasible in an earthquake zone, and maybe Venice wasn't such a good idea after all.

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