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  •  How different is the approach between... (4+ / 0-)

    ... a commercial airliner and a cargo plane carrying non-human freight?  Do the commercial airlines flying human passengers tend to be more conservative about avoiding storms or are they on such a tight schedule that they push it to get through?

    Forward thinking!

    by TheC on Tue May 27, 2014 at 09:42:33 AM PDT

    •  We don't take any chances with our pax... (17+ / 0-)

      I really don't care about your connections if it means jeopardizing the plane and me.  I care about me a lot.  I care about the plane and I care about you almost more than me.  

      I'll do everything in my power to get you to the gate on time, and to make your next flight, but I won't fly thru a thunderstorm and all it's associated badness to make an on-time arrival.  My chief pilot has my back on that one... this I know.  

      A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism. -Carl Sagan

      by jo fish on Tue May 27, 2014 at 10:50:24 AM PDT

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    •  I think it's about the same (13+ / 0-)

      I'm told that we had some "cowboys" that used to push the weather but we're very safety conscious today.

      I hear the passenger carriers on the radio constantly looking for smooth air. They're trying to give the pax the best ride possible.

      In the freight business we'd joke that "the boxes aren't complaining" but I don't like to take a beating any more than you do.

      Flying through turbulence for any length of time is fatiguing and I'm fatigued enough on any given night.

      If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

      by Major Kong on Tue May 27, 2014 at 11:19:29 AM PDT

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      •  I'm old enough (1+ / 0-)
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        to have flown commercial prop and turbo-prop airliners which didn't have enough ceiling to get above the turbulence. It was often shake, rattle and roll from takeoff to landing. I do appreciate modern jets.

        When I lived in South America in the '60s, DC-6's were the workhorse. Took one of those (though my brother swears it was a DC-4) over the Andes from Lima to Cuzco. The frickin mountains were so close you could reach out and touch them. It was not a smooth ride.

      •  Yeah, the challenge... (0+ / 0-)

        Finding smooth air so you're fuel burn isn't excessive if the smoothest air is down low.  Hate to get the pax tossed around and even more the FAs, because they often have to be up and working in the back, unless it's getting into more than occasional light chop.    

        I hear some of the guys up there taking 260-290 and I guess they must have short legs, because the fuel burn that low in most jets is awful.  I sometimes take an extra 1,000 lbs or so if I know there's crappy weather enroute just for that reason.  It's paid off on more than one occasion where a big deviation had to be made at a  lower altitude for pax comfort and the destination was clear and a million.  

        Ride reports are always appreciated and given, helps to figure things out down the road.  Even from box haulers.  :)

        Fly safe!

        A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism. -Carl Sagan

        by jo fish on Tue May 27, 2014 at 08:47:00 PM PDT

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