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  •  Actions are better than prayers. (4+ / 0-)
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    •  second this sentiment (1+ / 0-)
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      notwithstanding Mr. Goodluck's position, isn't this a matter of international concern and suitable for international intervention?

      Dirigiste vs Free Mkt -6.25/ Libertarian vs Authoritarian -4.72

      by bob in ny on Sun May 11, 2014 at 02:26:30 PM PDT

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    •  Actions are better than blog posts. (2+ / 0-)
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    •  Yes, you have an excellent point in this regard (1+ / 0-)
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      Fishtroller01, which I granted before. One reason it is good to keep an open mind and listen when people are willing to openly declare their goals, is we can get them down on the record.

      Then later on, it will be perfectly fair to ask "how is the progress going on this one?

      What have "we" done on that."

      What are "our" plans to take some action to keep "our" word with regard to the expectations "we" raised when "we" said this.

      Do you see what I'm saying?

      You made some excellent and valid points in my previous post. many of which I came very close to tipping just in the spirit of saying thanks for participating. In retrospect, I probably should have and intend to go back and look more carefully because I still feel unsettled about it, because several of the points you made seem valid or at least worthy of better responses than we've heard so far.

      So I intended to write you a not apologizing for not reaching out more to support those aspects of your points I could agree with and shift our those that I would prefer to take a wait and see attitude form.

      But I had so much going on I just couldn't fit it all in. So in that regard I'm sorry if I didn't give your many posts a sufficient response, which I acknowledge I still have not. I will go back and do so, as I believe I owe you that in return for you taking the time to comment in my posts, which I thank you for and appreciate.

      One concern I had, is that as a scientific humanist, whose father had spend six years in Saint Benedicts Monastary before leaving the Church and becoming an agnostic, after two years of heavy duty philosophical disputes, and also as an author who has written substantial numbers of extremely harsh allegations of criminal behavior by the Vatican and Cardinal Law with regard to his flight to Vatican territory (which does not recognize U.S. extradition treaties) I am trying to balance a very delicate diplomatic balance in writing these kind of posts.

      How does one show respect for major world religions, while at the same time accusing one of their past leaders, i.e. Post Benedict of being involved in knowingly criminal cover-up of pedophilia cases in Boston, and shielding Cardinal Law from the Massachusetts A.G. subpoena?

      This balance nearly exceeds my limited diplomatic skills without then two new curve-balls I am now trying to learn to deal with.

      I've discovered I am a blog editor of Street Prophets which is dedicated to treating all the major world's religions with respect, tolerance and foster inter-faith dialogue, all good things I support. (But not at the exclusion of accountability for the laws of Massachusetts governing the safety of children.)

      And, I was just asked to guest host a post for SP, during which I learned I held this role, which is an honor, but an obligation goes with it, which I do not know for sure I can live up to.

      Then I do not know you at all. While I feel nearly certain if we could sit down and talk we would find so many areas of agreement we would probably be friends within a couple hours, to try to do this "on stage" while I was also trying to balance all these other challenging roles I knew would exceed my finite and limited diplomatic capacities.

      So I'm sorry I essentially ignored you many comments.

      Thank you for being so gracious about then and even more so now. I interpret this as a sign of classiness on your part which I appreciate a great deal and will try to reciprocate.

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      by HoundDog on Sun May 11, 2014 at 03:01:39 PM PDT

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      •  Thank you HoundDog... (0+ / 0-)

        You are very thoughtful and I appreciate what you said to me. You don't have to worry about not replying to posts, etc.  I know that most people, as I, get taken away from conversations on here just because real life happens every day! (And often I think that's the only place we should be. I don't even have a Facebook page.)

        I don't even try to maintain respect for institutions like the RCC or even their religious claims. I've read too much history to even work up a modicum of respect in that arena.  I find the RCC dangerous to peace and to human rights in the world and find it terribly distressing that this institution wasn't torn down and scattered to the winds hundreds of years ago. That it still maintains the authority it does on this planet is immensely sad and blocks my ability to be optimistic about human civilization.  My journey from Christian to atheist was due in a large part from taking years to explore why I believed what I believed and where it all came from. The answers were pretty alarming. And when I came across Sam Harris's End of Faith, a whole new way of thinking opened up, and I felt a sense of freedom.

        I am often accused of "troll-like" behavior because, as an atheist,  I am so blunt about religious ideas, actions and institutions.  However I am also on a national council for a major interfaith church/state separation group, so I work with people of faith on a regular basis.  Of course I don't make the same observations with them as I make here or elsewhere online. Being anonymous does allow for some freedom of expression that one has to be more guarded about in personal or business interactions. And, I don't see anything wrong with that.  While I can be harsh on religious postings, I never call the author of the posting names or degrade them personally.  Some people, however, take any slam on their religion as a personal attack, and thus find me very offensive. I somehow manage to live with their efforts to drum me off the stage, mostly because I have also met people like you.

        Your background is very interesting and my feeling is also that if we met in person, we would probably get along just fine.

        There are days, however, where I have no respect or tolerance for religion or its ideas or actions in the world and would like to see mankind move out of its religious phase. So I guess that would make me a poor candidate  for Street Prophets!

        Do you have a science background?  I have one, but it's not conventional. I have no formal training in science, but worked at a major high energy physics facility teaching particles, accelerators, detectors AND prairie science.  I also was a non-paid editor for three books on science. Funny how life

        See you on the threads...

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