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  •  I wondered about that. (1+ / 0-)
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    Rich in PA

    Legal gamesmanship can certainly go the other way - that is, specious complaints of lack of mental competence in order to avoid capital punishment, or to mitigate sentencing.

    Do you have links?  Not that I doubt you, I'd just like to read what you read.

    All that said, cheating the law is still cheating the law.  Is it really "cheating" if the other side cheated first (i.e. a false claim of mental disability)?  I don't know, but I kind of tend to say yes - especially as it relates to capital punishment.

    I don't think it's really healthy that we have to have those dialogues in the first place.

    Not all people are human; not all humans are people.

    by Jon Sitzman on Tue May 13, 2014 at 01:08:57 PM PDT

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    •  Here you go (3+ / 0-)

      Rendon was kidnapped from in January 1991 from a Chevron station and driven to an isolated area where Lewis and his co-defendant took her jewelry, and then raped her, records show.

      Then the men forced Rendon at gunpoint to walk into a field where Campbell told her to run.

      Campbell fired once at her and missed and then shot her in the back and left her to die, records show.

      Look, I tried to be reasonable...

      by campionrules on Tue May 13, 2014 at 01:11:23 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks, Campion. (0+ / 0-)

        Will read later, but that does sound pretty awful.

        I still can't say I support CP, no offense.  That's more to my general character than specific to this issue.

        Not all people are human; not all humans are people.

        by Jon Sitzman on Tue May 13, 2014 at 03:00:29 PM PDT

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      •  Interesting; first I've heard of a co-defendant (1+ / 0-)
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        The story in your link makes only passing mention of a "Lewis."

        Poking around online, I find that Leroy Lewis is mentioned as Campbell's accomplice in the 2007 appellate opinion, but it doesn't go into Lewis' trial, if any. There are also a couple of evidentiary disputes that the court unanimously ruled in favor of the state, holding that even if the jury had been told about the state's problems in handling (or mishandling) the evidence against Campbell, they would still have sentenced him to death. The police lab responsible for the evidence was shut down in 2002.

        It seems Leroy Lewis got to the cops first, and copped a plea in exchange for a 35-year sentence.  I wonder did Lewis manipulate Campbell into committing the crime, then put the hat on him to avoid a death sentence of his own?

        But this is undoubtedly all water under the bridge, and Texas should protect its society even more with yet another execution.

        •  The low IQ (0+ / 0-)

          or conditions like fetal alcohol spectrum disorders often lead to being the one left holding the gun.

          I would imagine that he wasn't the mastermind of this horrible crime.

          We need a world in which we ask "What's happened to you?" more and "What's wrong with you?" less. (From a comment by Kossack nerafinator)

          by ramara on Tue May 13, 2014 at 05:20:40 PM PDT

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    •  We have a thoroughly perverse system. (0+ / 0-)

      The incentives are all for spurious or irrelevant claims (an IQ point here or there, knowing who manufactured your poison...really, who makes this shit up?), rather than for claims of actual innocence or diminished responsibility because of social deprivation.  

      It's not the side effects of the cocaine/I'm thinking that it must be love

      by Rich in PA on Tue May 13, 2014 at 01:22:03 PM PDT

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      •  We do have a perverse system, (3+ / 0-)
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        But not for the reasons you think we do. "An IQ point here or there" Okay so if they're at freakin' 10 let's still off them. "Knowing who manufactured your poison" we want to know that so we can know the track record of the company making the chemicals. So that they don't screw up and cause an excruciatingly painful death. And so that if they do screw up and cause that, the company can be dealt with accordingly.

        Neither of those is in any way irrelevant. The mental capacity of defendants has always been a central part of law and it always will be. The Supreme Court has ruled on it. You can dislike it all you want, but it'll take a constitutional amendment to change it. And I highly doubt you can reach the threshhold for an amendment that says "You can now execute the mentally handicapped."

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