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  •  He's not a Democrat anymore. He said in the last (4+ / 0-)

    election that, ""I'd say I am somewhere in-between being a libertarian and a liberal. So if I were to vote it would be kind of a Gary Johnson versus Mitt Romney decision, I suppose."

    Why the heck are people in this thread refusing to believe his own words? Your guesses are not more meaningful than direct quotes from the man himself.

    •  And who gives a sh!t? (4+ / 0-)

      I read him for his statistical analysis, not because I need a new best friend.

      As many have mentioned, his opinions on issues that cannot be statistically proven are of no more value than any of the rest of us.

      What bugs me is the way we take someone's actual or imputed position on some left-right spectrum and decide based on that, whether we agree with matters of evidence.

      “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

      by ivorybill on Wed May 14, 2014 at 08:09:28 AM PDT

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      •  Uh, apparently the people who said he (3+ / 0-)

        wasn't a conservative give a shit. I didn't raise the issue, so you could stand to be a little less insulting. Or, perhaps, you could insult the people who brought up the issue instead of me.

        •  I was unnecessarily harsh to you (1+ / 0-)
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          and I apologize.  

          I get frustrated though when some (perhaps not you) call into question empirical evidence based on the ideology of the person presenting that evidence.  To be clear, I don't necessarily agree with Silver's big picture analysis - but he has a history of accuracy in terms of prediction and methodology.  

          And sometimes I read people with whom I disagree or claim to be conservatives, if they are not too doctrinaire and if they are at least somewhat open to evidence - Andrew Sullivan would be a good example.   Some on the left - not necessarily you - tend to close themselves off to others due to ideology, and it pains me to see Silver dismissed in this way rather than parsed to see what he has to offer that is useful, versus what is pure opinion.

          But my comment was a bit rude, and I did want to apologize for that.

          “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

          by ivorybill on Wed May 14, 2014 at 10:09:27 AM PDT

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    •  None of which... (4+ / 0-)
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      ...changes whether or not he's correct on his data-backed points, which is the argument many here are making.

      Everyday Magic
      Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
      -- Clarke's Third Law

      by The Technomancer on Wed May 14, 2014 at 08:15:15 AM PDT

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      •  Did you read the diary? The diary is not about (1+ / 0-)
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        his data points. If he's promoting a dangerous message, that should be addressed. The diary wasn't about his data points, so why are you responding to the strawmen you've created rather than responding to the actual diary?

        •  Read the article the diary is addressing. (3+ / 0-)
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          Nate's backing his analysis with data.  pollwatcher does the same -- showing why Nate is wrong using data.  Nate's political leanings have nothing to do with it.

          I was specifically addressing the posts I was responding to, and no intellectually honest person could disagree with the fact that those responses are saying that Nate is wrong because he was never a liberal, which has nothing to do with why he's wrong.

          Everyday Magic
          Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
          -- Clarke's Third Law

          by The Technomancer on Wed May 14, 2014 at 09:44:18 AM PDT

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