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  •  How can a construct that is completely (11+ / 0-)

    man-made ever be considered "natural"?  Tony should be asked to name five species besides humans that get married to prove his contention that such a thing as "natural marriage" exists.  On the other hand, homosexual behavior has been observed in 1,500 species.  

    •  They don't think it's man-made. (6+ / 0-)

      They think God created marriage when he realized that no animals were appropriate helpers for Adam (because of course God was so all-knowing that he didn't foresee this problem and only realized it after he paraded all animals before Adam for naming) that he had to take one of Adam's ribs (why all-powerful God couldn't have just made Eve through the same method that he used with the dirt to make Adam, who knows... God magic being all mysterious) to make Eve. God created marriage; not people, as evidenced by the reality that no one in any cultures without any connection to Genesis have ever had socially recognized pair-bonding.

      •  How did Adam and Eve get married (6+ / 0-)

        if they didn't have a rabbi around to perform the ceremony?  I don't remember God officiating, so how did they do it?

        Oh, and God creating marriage still doesn't make it a natural act, it makes it a divine act.

        And, I'm an atheist and I can't believe I spent this much time trying to understand other people's religious fantasies.  I mean, it wasn't even an interesting philosophical exercise.  It was all about a creation myth, and it was so simplistic it wasn't even interesting in a literary sense.  How do these people literally believe these stories that a first grader would call out as being silly?  Is there peyote involved?

        •  I read once about mushrooms (5+ / 0-)

          something about psychedelic mushroom remnants in a cave thought to be a hiding place for some of the Apostles after Jesus was murdered. always thought that had a ring of truth to it; zombie raisings, walking on water, infinite food supplies, sounded like tripping to me.

          Last full month in which the average daily temperature did not exceed twentieth-century norms: 2/1985 - Harper's Index, 2/2013

          by kamarvt on Wed May 21, 2014 at 05:12:35 AM PDT

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      •  Lilith was created the same way (4+ / 0-)

        as Adam and was an "uppity" woman - she thought she was equal to Adam. So Adam asked for a woman who was not as uppity as Lilith so that's when the rib was used, making her a part of Adam (but not his equal).

        At least, that's the story I've read.

        I reject your reality and substitute my own - Adam Savage

        by woolibaar on Tue May 20, 2014 at 08:13:14 PM PDT

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      •  That "same method" resulted in a Lilith... (4+ / 0-)

        Yes, apparently some kind of apocrypha exists that describes "God" making a woman BEFORE Eve out of the same mud, hence EQUAL TO ADAM. That didn't turn out too well. So then, Eve was made out of the rib so that she and Adam were of the same essence, except that she now must serve Adam as did the rib or some stuff. Let me see here:

        So, yes, women being equal to men: "Lilit" (translated as "Night creatures", "night monster", "night hag", or "screech owl")

        So, ladies, this reaction of white male supremacists goes WAY BACK! ;o)

        Ugh. --UB.

        The Republican Party is run by the KOCH BROTHERS.

        by unclebucky on Tue May 20, 2014 at 11:01:04 PM PDT

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