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  •  The police have a standard they have to meet (10+ / 0-)

    if they want to bring somebody in for a mental health evaluation.
        I suspect that if an African American answered the door, answered their questions in a non-threatening way, and allayed their concerns, they would have acted in essentially the same way as they did toward Rodgers.
       Doing the whole involuntary commitment procedure is time consuming and annoying and they probably wouldn't want to do it without a clearcut reason.
       While some cops are racist and brutal, there is no reason to believe that was the case here.

    •  Yes, and they are also supposed (0+ / 0-)

      to have a search warrant in order to do a search of a physical premises.

      They don't always wait to get one before doing a search, though.

      If this young man's mother had called and said she feared her son was dealing drugs, I guarantee you his apartment would have ended up searched.

      •  elmo, the circumstances of the case (1+ / 0-)
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        did not involve substances, buy or sell.

        It involved parents' concern about their son's stability and their sense of duty to inform the police.  

        I doubt if there were grounds for a search warrant.  Just as there were apparently no grounds for involuntary admission to an inpatient facility.

        Key to the next layer might be whether the parents acted at the recommendation of their son's therapist, or whether they acted independently.  

        In any case, it would appear that the police did their job.  

        "How can we know the dancer from the dance?" (Yeats)

        by Remediator on Sun May 25, 2014 at 11:13:52 AM PDT

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        •  My point simply was (0+ / 0-)

          that police seem generally to be quite obsessive where potential drugs are concerned.

          Potential violence, not so much. Unless that violence is aimed at them, of course.

        •  You're making excuses (1+ / 0-)
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          Perhaps you identify so totally with these people, you're seeing yourself in them.   Given all the mass murders that have been committed by unstable white males of late, if you and apparently the Santa Barbara police department consider threats to commit mass murder irrelevant so be it.  

          Constance Hilliard is a professor, who blogs at Soul Wisdom:

          by Constance Hilliard on Sun May 25, 2014 at 12:42:08 PM PDT

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          •  Constance, that's nonsense. (6+ / 0-)

            I don't live in Santa Barbara, I don't make the income Rodger's parents make, I don't share his experience or viewpoints, and I'm not remotely connected with the police department in that city.  

            I'm also not biracial, where Rodger is, which point you failed to research or failed to acknowledge.  

            You've accused the police department of a major city of negligence on ground of racial profiling and you've done so without evidence.  

            Your claim is baseless and careless.  

            "How can we know the dancer from the dance?" (Yeats)

            by Remediator on Sun May 25, 2014 at 12:45:22 PM PDT

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      •  Not a great idea (1+ / 0-)
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        Making false accusations like that is a crime.

      •  elmo - a call from the mother regarding the sale (1+ / 0-)
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        of drugs provides probable cause so that a judge will issue a search warrant. It's a false comparison.

        "let's talk about that" uid 92953

        by VClib on Sun May 25, 2014 at 10:09:27 PM PDT

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    •  You're supporting my point (0+ / 0-)

      And when is the last time an African-American committed the kind of mass murder we're talking about?  Don't you get it? If law enforcement insist on profiling, doesn't it bother you that sooner or later mainstream white America will be wiped out from these wealthy or middle class mass murderers who dress well and talk politely.

      Constance Hilliard is a professor, who blogs at Soul Wisdom:

      by Constance Hilliard on Sun May 25, 2014 at 12:38:34 PM PDT

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      •  The bullets which killed Rodger's victims (0+ / 0-)

        were not black, white, Asian, or Hispanic.  

        They were bullets.  

        Respect the grief of the victims' friends and families and let the investigators take it from here.  


        "How can we know the dancer from the dance?" (Yeats)

        by Remediator on Sun May 25, 2014 at 12:54:53 PM PDT

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      •  In other words, (0+ / 0-)

        you want whites to be subjected to profiling, too.

      •  You have no valid point Professor Hilliard (0+ / 0-)

        Stop with your feeble attempts at playing criminologist and forensic psychiatrist.

        The crime was committed by a sociopath and your comment on Emily Willingham's Forbes blog which equated the acts of sociopaths with autistic individuals is an abomination.

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