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  •  I understand. Whether we use the word (16+ / 0-)

    "masculinity" or reject it, I feel it's important to push back on the idea that it's unmanly to express emotions other than anger (through violence).

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    by cai on Sun May 25, 2014 at 03:22:43 PM PDT

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    •  I, personally, would like to reclaim it (14+ / 0-)

      I've said for decades that, while not all men are pigs, there are way too many who should be fed at a trough and kept in pens. These are the ones who think El Fatso is a hero for calling out the "FemiNazis." They were the ones who thought an all-male panel for a Congressional hearing about birth control was perfectly fine. And they are the horrific individuals who are not just posting on sites like, but have been harassing women in anonymity on the Web for years. These carbon-based life forms may be many things -- most of them unprintable -- but they are not, to my mind, even close to my definition of "masculine."

      I turn 55 in July, so I come from the tail end of the Baby Boom generation that started the societal change that began the full-fledged empowerment of women -- that celebrated them as something other than sex toys, baby makers, and waitresses. My mom taught me to treat women with respect, and that's more than just holding the car door open or picking up the check. That's treating them as human beings with their own minds, thoughts, goals, and dreams. I think intelligent, funny, self-directed women are God's gift to the world, and we could use a few more legions of them. If that makes me "whipped" or "not a real man" in someone's eyes, then they need their eyes checked ASAP.

      I've watched with horror as intelligence and self-reliance has been increasingly disparaged (not just in women, but women get the lion's share of this vitriol). I look at the "Men's Movement" in the same way that I look at the Tea Party: They're a bunch of whining losers who can't stand that things aren't "the way they used to be", and have adopted the same stance of victimhood that conservatives cling to even as they diss the real victims of social and economic injustice. They don't shock me any more, but they do make me cringe every time they rear their addled little heads. And they are no more an example of "real men" than the howler monkeys that support the Tea Party are an example of "true patriots."

      "If you're going to go down with the ship, make it a submarine." - Wayne Shorter

      by Oliver Tiger on Sun May 25, 2014 at 08:02:07 PM PDT

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      •  I appreciate almost all of what you have to say, (4+ / 0-)

        however I would ask that you not bring anybody's weight into this.  Some of the people reading these threads will be overweight or fat, and women of size face additional obstacles in getting people to believe they were assaulted (e.g., "Who would want to rape you?")

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        by cai on Sun May 25, 2014 at 08:26:33 PM PDT

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