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  •  Really really agree with you. (7+ / 0-)

    Thinking back to seeing the first Avengers movie on opening night, that first scene in which Black Widow was tied up and being tortured.  My wife, in the most bitter tone I have ever heard from her, said aloud, "Really, Joss?  Really?"  

    It appeared at first that the scene was being set up to feature one of the male Avengers coming in to save her.  Of course, it turned out to be a typical Whedon misdirection and Black Widow was actually in control of the entire situation, as you would expect her to be.  The moment that this became clear, there was a collective sigh of relief from every female in the theater, along with half of the males.

    I suppose we have Joss Whedon to thank for Black Widow not being reduced to a plot device or love interest.  But let's take the next step.  She is every bit as interesting as the male Avengers who had had their own movies.  There really needs to be a Black Widow movie.  Let Joss direct it, or hell, maybe even an actual female director.

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    by SquirmyRooter on Mon May 26, 2014 at 11:14:02 AM PDT

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    •  Black Widow was perhaps the most important (6+ / 0-)

      character in the whole movie - she brings in the Hulk, she beats the crap out of the Russian gangsters, she turns the tables on Loki, deprograms Barton, and closes the portal - yet NONE of the major reviews said anything about her performance, or her importance to the story.  NONE.  

      Even worse, a lot of the neckbearded fanboys who populate on-line message boards not only refuse to acknowledge this, they insist that Black Widow is completely unnecessary to the franchise and that Johansson should be ditched because she's pregnant.  "She'll have to look after her baby, so she can't make any more of the movies," more than one has whined - yet not a single word from any of them about how Chris Hemsworth, Robert Downey Jr., and Jeremy Renner, all of whom have young children, will be too busy to film.

      It's appalling.

      This isn't freedom. This is fear - Captain America

      by Ellid on Mon May 26, 2014 at 02:38:55 PM PDT

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      •  also (6+ / 0-)

        In the "put down the scepter" scene, when the alarm goes off, everyone else in the room looks over at the computer sounding the alarm - Black Widow is the only person in the room staying attentive to the person she's identified as the potential threat.  Everyone else gets immediately distracted.

        She was great. Want more.  

        •  I didn't notice that (4+ / 0-)

          But you're absolutely right, Natasha's the only one who isn't distracted.

          I think she and Cap are the two who are the best at reading another person, her because she's a trained spy and psychological manipulator, him because he's a natural leader who's had to make snap judgments (think of the way that he immediately trusts Natasha's call on Clint Barton, and the way he shows no fear of Bruce Banner).  No wonder those two make such a great team in the current movie.

          This isn't freedom. This is fear - Captain America

          by Ellid on Mon May 26, 2014 at 07:13:23 PM PDT

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