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  •  They should have to work (7+ / 0-)

    with all the people they decide are scammers.  My niece is obviously disabled, mentally ill and mentally challenged.  It took about 15 years to get her on disability with many agencies helping her apply at least 6 times.  Her own sister hates her with some good reason, insists that she can work.  Every time she repeats this I ask her if she would hire her. Of course she says no. I propose that due to the cutting of social services all business have to hire the people who need help at a ratio of 10 workers to one un-hirable.  Watch how fast these services increase in monetary aid.

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    by tobendaro on Tue May 27, 2014 at 03:46:57 AM PDT

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    •  That's pretty harsh. A study showed that 40% (1+ / 0-)
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      of schizophrenics who were given paid work showed improvements in their symptoms. Integration into society is part of any successful treatment program. I guess you think the mentally ill should all be kept locked away behind closed doors? Of course, it takes good support programs to keep the mentally ill in jobs, but I'm not sure why SSDI is considered a worthwhile expenditure and programs that get good results are not.

      •  I have a son (3+ / 0-)
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        with schizophrenia.  Like I said, anyone who thinks everyone can work needs to provide the jobs and work with those they would deny help.  That will get programs funded very quickly.  Are you denying that some people with mental illnesses are unable to work? Of course many benefit from work programs but those are being cut too.  My solution is to make laws that every employer must employ handicapped people since we don't, as a country, seem to want to help them in other ways.  

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        by tobendaro on Tue May 27, 2014 at 04:29:27 AM PDT

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      •  Not all schizophrenics are equal (4+ / 0-)

        My sister is schizophrenic but also has profound disability. A once smart and brilliant girl's mind was so damaged by her early episodes that she now has the functionality of a ten year old.

        A schizophrenic who obtained the needed treatment before multiple major episodes may not have that loss of function, and they may absolutely benefit from the stability of a career.

        The Cake is a lie. In Pie there is Truth. ~ Fordmandalay

        by catwho on Tue May 27, 2014 at 07:26:29 AM PDT

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      •  "given paid work" is not always available (1+ / 0-)
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        and you don't speak of the support services needed for them to work.

        Yes, work can be affirming and can help stabilize people with severe mental illnesses but it is often hard to find jobs that will accommodate people's disorders.

        But your study is limited to those who could do paid work — and only 40% of this hand picked group did better. Furthermore the "work" could have not provided sufficient compensation to allow them to survive without supplementation.

        Don't use this to generalize.

        None of this says that some individuals can't be incredibly successful at even high level jobs. I know of a number of graduate level professors with schizophrenia and Bipolar disorders.

        I'm asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about real change in Washington ... *I'm asking you to believe in yours.* Barack Obama

        by samddobermann on Tue May 27, 2014 at 02:53:49 PM PDT

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