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  •  Apparently not. (2+ / 0-)
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    Urban Space Cowboy, wu ming

    We still have party primaries,  plurality victories, or the even more clusterfuckish top-two primaries.  I have yet to hear from opponents of ranked-choice voting/IRV how that could possibly be worse than the current ugly mess.  And it would remove the convenient trope that progressives are to blame for Republican victories.

    As for Florida, I'll remind everyone once again that 20,000 votes were thrown out in Duval County, largely in Democratic areas.  That's just one county. The criminal gang running the state worked very hard at stealing that election, and they had the support of the Supreme Court.  So I'm not convinced that Nader voters were really to blame for the installation of Dubyuh.

    I am become Man, the destroyer of worlds

    by tle on Wed May 28, 2014 at 08:08:48 AM PDT

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    •  Nader received 97,488 votes in Florida (0+ / 0-)

      A retrospective analysis of his voters suggests that were it not for Nader, about 40% of his voters would have skipped the Florida contest entirely.  That leaves approximately 58,493 voters who would be likely Gore voters.  

      To have won the election in Florida for Gore,

      only 539 of those theoretical 58,493 (less than 1% of that theoretical 60%) of the overall Florida Nader voters, or  

      only 539 of the actual 48,715 (about 1.11%) of the Nader voters in the Florida counties Gore won,

      would have had to have voted for Gore to the national election to have shifted and Gore become 43rd President of the US.  No war in Iraq.  No collapse of the US economy.  Farther ahead in addressing climate change.  

      Nader was a spoiler in the monumental and historic 2000 Florida election.  There would have been no controversy, no SCOTUS challenge, no hanging-chad, were it not for Nader votes.  But it's said and done. It's only helpful as one lesson in what can happen when the progressive votes are split.

      "Out of Many, One Nation." This is the great promise of these United States of America -9.75 -6.87

      by Uncle Moji on Wed May 28, 2014 at 08:44:51 AM PDT

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      •  And only 539 of those Duval votes (0+ / 0-)

        would have had to be counted.  How many of the votes were thrown out for double-voting, where Gore was selected, and written in (because the voters were urged to vote on every page, and the presidential vote was multiple pages)?  We'll never know, because of Duval Supervisor of Elections John may-he-rot-in-hell Stafford.

        I am become Man, the destroyer of worlds

        by tle on Wed May 28, 2014 at 08:37:57 PM PDT

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