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  •  You are right. (3+ / 0-)
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    The way we use "centrist" on this site reflects the Beltway designation "centrist" which means:  you're to the right of Genghis Khan on all matters economic, but you're OK with gay marriage, contraception and religious freedom.

    There is no way for a citizen of a Republic to abdicate his responsibilities. ---Edward R. Murrow

    by SouthernLiberalinMD on Wed May 28, 2014 at 03:21:33 PM PDT

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    •  Not a exactly a good definition then (1+ / 0-)
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      Does not Dick Cheney support gay marriage now, as now a number of hard right Republicans, I defiantly would not use centrist to describe him, and the talk in New York media is, that marriage equality would be just a matter of time anyways, the two previous Dems govs pushed for marriage as well, but it only got done by cuomo because of this exact bullshit in support of Republicans and horse-trading things like the horrible budget, union rights, and gerry mandering the NY districts too keep conservatives, most Repubs, but some Dems indefiantly.

      So all Cuomo did was trade a free bone to the left in exchange for indefinant  Republican rule in the Senate, it is all gerrymandered that way now as part of what the GOP got in allowing a few members to vote for it.

      Also, by that definition, Obama prior to 2010 was "right-wing" is you have to support marriage equailty to be called centrist, as Obama didn't until Biden forced him into a corner.

      Though I have no problem describing Obama as right-wing, but I'd still use that to describe Cuomo to.

      •  Well, I was trying to be nice (0+ / 0-)

        the truth is you also have to have a "D" after your name. A Republican can't be "centrist." Only Democrats are "centrist."

        And yes, it's a crap definition. What are they supposed to be the center of? It sure ain't American political opinion. Most "centrists" support Social Security cuts.

        There is no way for a citizen of a Republic to abdicate his responsibilities. ---Edward R. Murrow

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Wed May 28, 2014 at 04:08:02 PM PDT

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    •  Problem is the definition of center (1+ / 0-)
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      The beltway treats the center as not the median point of the American public, but the median point of elected officials.  As the Democrats (on average) have stayed relatively stable in their positions, but the right has moved so far right they'd drum Saint Ronnie out of the party today.

      That way, the beltway gets away with calling people like Cuomo "Centrist" when he is where the republicans were 20 years ago but not where Democrats are on all but a few social issues.  And as important as Marriage Equality is, it isn't enough to make Cuomo a Democrat in more than name.

      As a New Yorker, I can't see myself voting for the Republican candidate by any means, but I won't be pulling the lever for Cuomo by any means.

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