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  •  reality (11+ / 0-)

    It is far too late to draft a quality candidate.  The reality of NY politics is that no one with any political capital will take this on.  Everyone is NY is scared of Andy.  

    And the reality is that the WFP leadership doesn't want to do this so they aren't going to work to find a quality candidate.

    None of this is good for the WFP.  But they were the ones who endorsed Cuomo last time so they are to blame.  

    If the WFP was going to do this right, they should have been preparing a candidate last year.  Instead this is what one of their leaders said in December when confronted with the idea of challenging Cuomo.  

    Bill Lipton, the WFP’s state director, had a brief response to that idea: “It’s absurd.”
    The WFP knows a lot about how to run elections.  It is clear they don't want to run one at the leadership level.  Going to be an interesting weekend in Albany when the leaders have to face the angry members at their convention.
    •  Agree (11+ / 0-)

      this has more to do with internal power struggles within WFP than anything else. There's a grass-roots faction who passionately detest Cuomo, and who I'm sure would want to nominate the strongest possible alternative candidate, there's a union faction who are pretty much OK with Cuomo as long as he gives them what they want, and there's the leadership trying to ride herd on the whole shebang.

      Sorry, it made sense for them to endorse Cuomo last time, because it got them ballot position. And much of the argument about whether or not to endorse Cuomo this time rides on the same consideration: if they endorse any other candidate, no matter who, they are risking their ballot line. Of course the stronger the candidate, the more votes they pull, and the less risk of losing their line.

      FWIW, I held my nose and voted for Cuomo last time, since the alternative was Mr. Baseball Bat. After four years of him, I'm ready to vote for someone else, even Zephyr Teachout (sorry, Markos). It would be my first vote for a non-Democrat since 1969. If WFP nominates Cuomo, which is still a very real possibility, I plan to undervote for Governor come November. And I know a lot of other good Democrats who feel the same: my local Democratic Club, on whose executive committee I serve, is not endorsing him, nor are some of the other reform clubs in my area.

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Thu May 29, 2014 at 07:06:51 AM PDT

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      •  didn't vote for him last time (7+ / 0-)

        Won't this time.

        He was taking money from the Koch Brother's last time.  That's all I needed to know.

         This time he is being supported by a big money group called "Republicans for Cuomo".  

        Why would any Democrat vote for this man?

        I agree that this is a difficult time for the WFP.  But this happens to any group that gains some power.  They quickly lose site of why they existed in the first place.

        •  I'm not setting myself up (1+ / 0-)
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          as any big supporter of WFP. In fact, people who know me IRL know that it's rather the opposite. They managed to disenchant me through direct contact, and very early on. While they have helped some good people get elected, they have also taken stands that were entirely self-serving, and not at all in keeping with their mission statement, some as long as 10 years ago.

          That they may be on the verge of losing sight of that mission entirely doesn't surprise me all that much, but if they do they are dooming themselves to the same fate as the Liberal Party met, only much, much faster.

          I suspect this is something that's driven structurally, by NY's election laws that allow cross-endorsement. It helps third and fourth parties gain power when they are forming, but it also pressures them into making deals with the devil later on.

          "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

          by sidnora on Fri May 30, 2014 at 04:09:13 AM PDT

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      •  Me too, first time ever not voting for a Democrat (2+ / 0-)
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        Or it will be. In the past I've never voted for a non-Democrat, but Cuomo is not getting my vote again. I really hope WFP can give me someone to vote for, otherwise it'll be a write in, with democrats down the rest of the ballot (I think).

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