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  •  To be fair -- he's not doing everything overnight (5+ / 0-)

    which means the pols  want his head because evidently they all went to Hogwarts and graduated magna cum laude, but have lost their magic since entering Congress (what, there's a Muggle-ization forcefield, or something?).

    What I do hope he'll do is ask for more $$$, 'cause his system's got WAY more new patients -- and more coming, and just as the WW1 survivors were often more traumatized than the War Between the States vets (there is never anything civil about a war; that's why it's called a war) and the WW2 vets were in worse shape, and the Korean vets started coming home after surviving things the WW2 vets didn't have a chance of surviving, and the 'Nam vets (now a large part of the VA's geriatric mission) were often far more torn up than the Korean vets, the Iraq and Afghanistan vets are coming in with more severe (and often more repeated) injuries, and in bigger numbers, than did the previous war's vets...

    It would take H. Norman Schwarzkopf with the ability to fire administrators instantly six or seven years to get all the craptastic habituants cleaned out of the upper echelons at the VA, and he won a land war in Asia in less than a year....meanwhile, the (many, IMO) VA facilities that are doing good work don't make the news, adding arrows to the Gee O Pee anti-ACA/single-payer quiver. Heck, I'm not convinced Patton / Ike / JFK could fix the thing overnight, like the highly-interviewed Congresspeople who are NOT going to admit they voted against more funds and personnel for the VA many times, will want loudly until some other scandal offers them the opportunity to gin up bigger poll pluses.

    Shinseki's not the problem. The problem here is entrenched dishonesty, funded by the "bonus" system. Compounded by political mealymouthed grandstanding conveniently omitting "deficit responsible" votes.

    LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

    by BlackSheep1 on Thu May 29, 2014 at 08:37:55 AM PDT

    •  6 years on the job... (6+ / 0-)

      and his response to the scandal is to set up some independent fact finding commission. They are calling for his head because he seems utterly clueless at what to do to fix the situation. These problems have been known for a while, with howls from veterans complaining about wait times and NOW he's getting around to learning the facts?

      That's horseshit. The facts, while not complete, are compelling enough to know there are some very bad actors who were lining their pockets while keeping veterans from getting appointments and that this isn't new. Yet, did any of these bad actors get fired? Were they reassigned? Or did they keep right on making money off the back of a perverse incentive system?

      How the GOP contributed to all this - and they did - is irrelevant. The man is in charge of the VA and blaming "the system" and "the culture" means no one is held accountable. While accountability is crucial, the real question is if Shinseki is the man to fix it. Does anyone think he's the right guy for the job?

      •  How to fix it? MORE RESOURCES. $$$$$$ (4+ / 0-)

        "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

        by zenbassoon on Thu May 29, 2014 at 09:07:42 AM PDT

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        •  His Budget (3+ / 0-)
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          His budget has nearly doubled and he still has the same problems that were there on the day he walked in.

          That is not effective leadership.

          I don't think people would be defending him if it weren't for his stance on the Iraq war, which has given him a ton of street cred among the base.

          Then again, as Limbaugh was blustering yesterday the only reason he has the job is because he was against the war and that made him a celebrity among the base, and not because he was in any way qualified to actually lead the VA.

          If he had been there only a year it would be one thing, but he has been there for long enough that it is time for some accountability for the continued failure to properly do his job.

          •  Did you read MB's diary yesterday? (2+ / 0-)

            His budget needs to be quadrupled.

            Do you know how many veterans there are to VA centers?

            Do the math.

            "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

            by zenbassoon on Thu May 29, 2014 at 09:29:05 AM PDT

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            •  Why hasn't he gone before congress to fight for (1+ / 0-)
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              money, if that was the main problem?

              Where was the oversight?  That's the problem with some government agencies! Not enough oversight protecting our money and insuring the the clients get the services we're paying for.

              That's what the Rs keep hammering us about. Government is too big to effectively and efficiently do the jobs we assign it to do.

              It’s the Supreme Court, stupid! Followed by: It's always the Supreme Court! Progressives will win only when we convince a majority that they, too, are Progressive.

              by auapplemac on Thu May 29, 2014 at 10:37:10 AM PDT

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              •  It's not about oversight. It's about volume (0+ / 0-)

                It's like selling 50,000 seats to a 10,000 seat stadium.

                You need money to build a bigger stadium

                "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

                by zenbassoon on Thu May 29, 2014 at 01:09:24 PM PDT

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          •  Oh, bullshit. You get rid of Shinseki and THEN (2+ / 0-)

            what??  Huh, smart guy?  Does the new person who takes over get to perform some magic and then make the VA whole? The problems the VA is going through have been this way FOR YEARS and it make take more years to fix it the problems.  It's a combination of a couple of different factors that will help these veterans and their families.

            •  Given that the avg. member of Congress' net (0+ / 0-)

              worth is $1 million plus and the avg. VA patient's facing at least $1 million in lifetime care ... let's ask 'em all to pitch in and support the vets. A $5K check apiece wouldn't be much, but at least we'd see who's lying (as usual).

              I see exactly why the Gee O Pee wants Shinseki canned. In the VA hospitals where the care can be gotten to (and to be fair, in far too many there's not enough care for the district population of vets, and travel times plus scheduling aren't wonderful -- but then the same is true in the non-VA healthcare system, too) there's a model for single-payor, working, to be seen.

              They're afraid we all may want the level of care you can get at a good VA facility.

              LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

              by BlackSheep1 on Thu May 29, 2014 at 09:55:29 AM PDT

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            •  If he stays, we're doomed in 2014...simple as that (1+ / 0-)
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              There is a reason senators running tough races are calling for his head. Stay and fight in the trenches with him, if you so desire. But if he remains in charge of that department, his face will be next to every GOP ad running for congress this fall...and we'll get demolished.

              Adequate health care should be a LEGAL RIGHT in the U.S without begging or bankruptcy. Until it is, we should not dare call our society civilized.

              by Love Me Slender on Thu May 29, 2014 at 10:17:42 AM PDT

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          •  You call a 50% increase "nearly doubled? (eom) (0+ / 0-)

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