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  •  Right. The question is, (7+ / 0-)

    'how far up the ladder should that go?'

    The answer could be, 'depends on if we're more interested in handling the scandal or addressing the problem.'

    I suspect that the perfect person to address this would've been Shinseki: he's the one who was personally deceived, and who was penultimately responsible. He strikes me as motivated to the nth degree. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the new person will do a better job than he possibly could've.

    All I'm saying is, that's the question we should be asking. What's the best way to fix the problem? And, is there any argument that firing Shinseki is a step in that direction?

    I mean, it's done. So it's moot. Yay! We rooted out a bad administrator! Our job is done here.

    "Gussie, a glutton for punishment, stared at himself in the mirror."

    by GussieFN on Fri May 30, 2014 at 08:47:19 AM PDT

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    •  At this point, what fool would take the job? (13+ / 0-)

      As a news report said, the long waiting lists are because the VA doesn't have enough doctors.  That's because it doesn't have enough money.  A wise person wouldn't even consider taking the job of running the VA without an ironclad promise to increase the budget by 50%.

      We're all pretty strange one way or another; some of us just hide it better. "Normal" is a dryer setting.

      by david78209 on Fri May 30, 2014 at 09:06:58 AM PDT

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      •  In his many years as the head of the VA (2+ / 0-)
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        Why did Shinseki just "trust" his heads and never "verify" the facts.  There were always reports of long delays and he should have gotten thru some layers and reported the underfunding to the public. It was his job and had if he made it public, (like with Iraq) the recalcitrant Republicans in Congress would have been eventually shamed into the needed funding earlier.

        I knew when Charlie Crist stated that he believed Shinseki should resign that it was going to happen once the report was made public.  Charlie Crist's campaign manager was Obama's. (I kept my keyboard silent when I read all the comments dissing Crist and stating that he was suddenly separating himself from our President...which he never has done)

        Charlie was also, taking incoming feedback from having two huge regional VA hospitals in Tampa Bay. He has always been very involved with them and our active military in our Pinellas and Hillsborough Co. area.   He showed up to both of my National Guard Sgt. 1st class son's deployments to the middle east and the 1st time he traveled special from Tallahassee to attend.

    •  Motivated != good at your job (1+ / 0-)
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      The guy may be a great guy, but he simply failed.

      Sure he may have been able to turn it around but there was no reason to be exceptionally hopeful about that. Past performance is the best indicator of future performance.

      "'how far up the ladder should that go?'"

      Thats rather strait forward.

      The directly responsible go to jail
      Their supervisors get fired
      The head of the VA got to resign
      Obama gets flack and should do some serious soul searching.

      You ask? "And, is there any argument that firing Shinseki is a step in that direction?"

      Thats rather backwards it would be better to ask if there was any argument that NOT firing him was a step in the right direction.

      The man was simply THAT bad at his job.

      No matter how much you like the guy, incompetence at that level is unacceptable.

    •  Too late to rec the comment, but I agree... (0+ / 0-)

      I mean the DOJ has utterly failed at literally everything it's responsible for in terms of implementing the President's publicly-stated policies and positions. But Holder still has his job. Not only does Holder still have his job, but the heads of the DEA, and the US Attorneys who have gone overboard prosecuting marijuana cases, while completely neglecting Wall Street still have theirs. At least Shinseki was inclined to immediately get rid of the people responsible for implementing out-policy and dicking around with the President's stated commitments.

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