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  •  Only speaking for me (18+ / 0-)

    Like weezilgirl below, I am a former NRA member who quit in the 90s when things started getting stupid.  Opposition to the Assault Weapons Ban and the lack of reasonableness on location specific gun laws were what did me in.  If you can't accept that a city of millions should have different standards that a county of hundreds then I can't be part of your organization.  At the time I would guess that 30-40% of the NRA membership was in favor of/no opposed to most reasonable gun controls like registration and assault weapons ban.  By 2000 I would guess less than 10% did  - not because they changed their minds but because they all left.

    As for counter demonstration, I don't want to get anywhere near these assholes.  There is no convincing them so its not like they will suddenly see the light.  Some day they will grow up but its not today.  And Im not afraid of them shooting me.  That actually takes a lot and most people don't have it in them.  No I am afraid they are such idiots they will accidentally discharge one of their weapons out of incompetence.  Read Gun Fail.  

    The other thing is that most of us who are reasonable gun owners recognize that even if the absolute most restrictive rules were implemented they will have zero impact on us.  I have no issue with registration - I have registered many times because the Army requires it.  I have no issue with banning automatic weapons because I am perfectly capable of using a semi auto.  I have no issue with magazine restrictions.  If you need more than 3 rounds you suck and should go to the range until you learn how to shoot.  I have no issue with banning both concealed carry AND open carry because I don't need a gun to make up for insecurities.  So in that sense, I have no concerned with the damage that they do to actual gun rights because even if they cause the most extreme backlash possible I am pretty confident even the worst case is pretty reasonable.  

    If these idiots ever decide to "open carry" near my "castle" (home - like on my property) I will express 357 displeasures and I am an excellent shot.  

    It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

    by ksuwildkat on Fri May 30, 2014 at 01:10:59 PM PDT

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    •  So, if one of these guys is carrying near your (9+ / 0-)

      home, you're going to open up with your .357?! god.

      •  set foot on my property armed (6+ / 0-)

        and yes, I will.  Im not going to wait around and try and figure out if you are making a "constitutional statement" or making a threat.  

        I spent years in Iraq and Afghanistan doing "open carry" and I was sending a very specific message.  I also spent years in other places doing concealed carry - a very different message.  So to me, their "open carry" message is very clear - intimidation and the threat of deadly force.  I doubt they would argue with me about the message.

        One of these idiots is going to be shot soon.  I notice they are not exercising their open carry rights at 7-11 or Circle K.  Well one of these days they are going to go someplace where there is an off duty policeman or more likely a business that got robbed one to many times.  

        It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

        by ksuwildkat on Fri May 30, 2014 at 02:58:35 PM PDT

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      •  He said "Like on my property" (1+ / 0-)
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        As in if they set foot on his property carrying a shotgun or assault rifles he would then reasonably fear for his safety and life, and would therefor (In some places) Legally be allowed to blow them away.

      •  The statement was "on my property" (0+ / 0-)

        not NEAR it!. I agree with everything that ksuwildkat said. I am also a multi-gun owner. I have no problem with even the very strict laws that NY state has implemented because none of those laws interfere with my responsible ownership and use of guns.

    •  Yes, what you said ksuwildkat (2+ / 0-)
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      I'm amazed most gun owners don't feel the same way.  So many (at least in the west where I live) just buy right into "they're just interested in zero guns and if we give one fingerprint recognizing trigger, it will be the end of our gun rights."  Black and white ignorant thinking.  

      And of course, we can't discount that this radical faction came out of the woods (where they have been on "maneuvers" for years) when the current Administration was elected by a majority of the rest of us.  There is no way they can be Patriots because they have no respect for our form of government or our Rule of Law.

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