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  •  Target should have been 50% by 2030, which would (3+ / 0-)
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    be scaled back in negotiations. Armchair quarterback sure, but the WH knew what they are in for.
    I give Obama props for putting something tangible forward, even at this late date.

    Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree. -Martin Luther

    by the fan man on Mon Jun 02, 2014 at 11:45:24 AM PDT

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    •  How about this? (1+ / 0-)
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      The McCain plan would impose a cap and trade system on electric power, transportation fuels, commercial business, and industrial business but would exempt small businesses. Firms would either reduce their emission of greenhouse gases or purchase “offsets” to cover emissions. Targets for greenhouse gas emissions would decline over time as follows:

          2012: Return Emissions To 2005 Levels (18 Percent Above 1990 Levels)
          2020: Return Emissions To 1990 Levels (15 Percent Below 2005 Levels)
          2030: 22 Percent Below 1990 Levels (34 Percent Below 2005 Levels)
          2050: 60 Percent Below 1990 Levels (66 Percent Below 2005 Levels)
          Permits would be auctioned “eventually” with proceeds going toward the development of advanced technologies to reduce greenhouse gases.

      2008 campaign
      •  The problem with that first count... (4+ / 0-)

        ...is that in 2012, emissions were ALREADY 12 percent below what they had been in 2005, and with the last count, the plan is to be 83 percent below the 2005 levels in 2050. (That will of course, take a lot more doing than all three rules on emissions so far—vehicles, new power plants, existing power plants. But it goes farther than McCain proposal.)

        Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

        by Meteor Blades on Mon Jun 02, 2014 at 01:38:54 PM PDT

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