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  •  40x thyroid cancer in Japanese children, since (0+ / 0-)

    Fukushima, and radiation is washing up on our west coast now.  

    It takes a while to kill people with radiation exposure, even if all of them are counted.

    •  Old reactor design, built in stupid area. (0+ / 0-)

      Liquid thorium reactors will be cheaper, smaller, and safe: http://en.wikipedia.org/...

      "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

      by HeyMikey on Wed Jun 04, 2014 at 11:29:00 AM PDT

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      •  And... (0+ / 0-)

        Multiply that little-bitty nuke box in the graphic above x 40. You still won't come close to the size of the coal box.

        "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

        by HeyMikey on Wed Jun 04, 2014 at 11:29:59 AM PDT

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        •  And then multiply it by 20 years, at a minimum (0+ / 0-)

          Most cancers take a long time to develop.  Fast appearance is unusual for cancers.

          Imagine if even one of those children were yours.

        •  And then multiply it by 20 years, at least (0+ / 0-)

          Most cancers take a long time to develop.  It's unusual for them to appear quickly.

          Imagine if even one of those children were yours.

          •  Why are cancer deaths worse than other deaths? (0+ / 0-)

            Cancer is bad--lost my dad and father-in-law to it; my wife's mom suffered greatly from it before dying of something else; my mom is a 10-year cancer survivor. So I know a bit about family with cancer.

            But deaths are, more or less, deaths. More of them come from fossil fuels than from nuclear--and it's not even close. Not to mention the suffering caused by drought, famine, flooded farmland due to global warming.

            The math is horrible, but it's still the math.

            "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

            by HeyMikey on Thu Jun 05, 2014 at 02:54:37 PM PDT

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            •  The math is: multiply what's there by 800 at least (0+ / 0-)

              20 x 40 = 800

              And this is just what's easy to see.  Plus our nuclear plants are disintegrating, and many of them have the same design as Fukushima.

              There's a reason no insurance company will touch nuclear plants.

              Not to mention how much worse it could get if/when one of our plants does a Fukushima.  They sit on active faults and in flood plains and have come very close already.

              •  Two points. (0+ / 0-)

                (1) You have to multiply the deaths on fossil fuels, too, if your plan is to keep operating them for decades.

                (2) You're still confusing old designs that are already in place with new designs that could be put only in geologically stable areas.

                "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

                by HeyMikey on Fri Jun 06, 2014 at 05:17:45 AM PDT

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                •  Wishful thinking (0+ / 0-)

                  kind of like "clean coal."

                  •  "Homage to Catalonia." (0+ / 0-)

                    Mentioned in one of my previous comments above. Purism = defeat.

                    I am basically on your side. People like you and people like me should be working together against the common enemy. The differences between you and me are small compared to the differences between us and the fossil fuel industry.

                    "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

                    by HeyMikey on Mon Jun 09, 2014 at 12:19:54 PM PDT

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