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  •  I realize your question was to the diarist (1+ / 0-)
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    Catskill Julie

    and I too am disappointed in the WFPs decision, but I don't put the WFP in the same league as the Independence party in any way, shape, or form.

    The Independence party exists for the benefit of the party leaders itself, that's it.  They endorse whoever they feel will win and have no actual policy planks that they ask for or enforce.  It's essentially little more than a patronage mill for political grifters.  They have no activists and no political machinery to help get anyone elected.  I don't even know that they even try that hard to get much funding for the party.  AFAIK, they don't do much fundraising.

    The WFP has actual policy planks, has actual activists, and has political machinery - like unions - to help get pols elected and to provide funds.  The idea behind the party is that it is a labor oriented party that pushes for progressive policy, but its leaders currently seem more concerned about keeping their party line than actually looking for progressive policy due to their fear of retribution from Cuomo.  They feel if they don't endorse Cuomo, they won't get the 50k votes needed to keep their ballot line.  I disagree with them on that assessment, though I agree that if they did run a candidate against Cuomo, he would do everything he could to destroy the party.  I don't know if he would succeed, however.  It depends on whether or not the pro-Cuomo unions went along with trying to blow the party up and if the anti-Cuomo unions and the party activists could keep the party together and well funded.

    I may not agree with their decision, and think it was a cop-out, but I certainly don't put them anywhere near the disgusting classification I put the Independence party in.

    YMMV.

    "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

    by Darth Stateworker on Tue Jun 03, 2014 at 05:40:28 PM PDT

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    •  Degrees of grifterism? (0+ / 0-)
      but its leaders currently seem more concerned about keeping their party line than actually looking for progressive policy due to their fear of retribution from Cuomo.
      For sure there are no words for how reprehensible the Independence Party is.

      But I have lost the little respect I still had for WFP.

      Okay, the Government says you MUST abort your child. NOW do you get it?

      by Catskill Julie on Tue Jun 03, 2014 at 05:53:58 PM PDT

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      •  I don't see the desire to keep the line (2+ / 0-)
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        in and of itself as "grifterism."  Grifterism is all the juiced-in Independence party clowns (and friends and family) in patronage positions all over in state and local government.  The WFP doesn't have that.

        Their leaders are right in that without the line, the party is toothless.  But I think their concerns were a bit exaggerated simply as an excuse to endorse a governor some of them feared and some of them are tight with.

        Let's put it this way:  On top of the Q poll that showed a liberal challenger getting 20% of the vote, MoveOn polled 500k+ of it's members in New York on what they felt.  73% of them wanted a liberal challenger to Cuomo.

        It's extremely doubtful this would have cost them their line.

        "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

        by Darth Stateworker on Tue Jun 03, 2014 at 06:30:08 PM PDT

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