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  •  Ok, remind me one thing. (1+ / 0-)
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    LordMike

    When is the last time a non-incumbent Democrat has won election for federal office in Mississippi? I think that might have been decades ago. Racial polarization is really the thing here - the Democrat would need exceptional crossover support.

    •  actually that would be Travis Childers (4+ / 0-)

      In reality, laws are always useful to those with possessions and harmful to those who have nothing. - Rousseau, The Social Contract, note 5

      by James Allen on Wed Jun 04, 2014 at 09:05:01 AM PDT

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      •  Interesting piece... (0+ / 0-)

        on Childers in Politico just a few days ago.

        On health care, he stood by his vote against the ACA, explaining that he believed Congress “could have done a much better job.” But Childers also rebuked opponents of the law who continue to promise its repeal.

        “It’s not going to be repealed. You and I know the numbers that it would take. I resent these politicians lying to Mississippians about it being repealed,” he said. “I’m one of those people that will work to make the bill better.”

        On gun control and same-sex marriage, Childers distanced himself from national Democratic positions. “I’ve always been a big proponent of the Second Amendment and I still am,” he said, continuing: “My personal feeling is of traditional marriage. That’s my personal feeling. … Just because I believe this way, it’s not my place to be judgmental and degrading to anyone.”

        Still, the former lawmaker stood by his support for the 2009 federal stimulus (the economy was “drowning,” he says) and hewed close to national Democratic positions on raising the minimum wage and pay equity for women. Childers said he is proud of having voted against the 2008 bank bailouts (he didn’t want to “reward these big banks” for bad behavior) but regrets having opposed the aid package to auto companies (“I was just so disenchanted with, especially, General Motors. … That might have been the wrong vote”).

        So even in deep red Mississippi, Childers is talking about fixing Obamacare to make it work better, and not this stupid repeal nonsense.

        And hopefully he gets some money soon, because his website is almost non-existent.

      •  I meant... (0+ / 0-)

        when is the last time a non-incumbent Democrat won election for statewide federal office.

        Looking at the senators, it was in the 1940s. On the presidential level, it was probably 1976 (when Carter swept almost all of the South).

        •  it might as well have been statewide (1+ / 0-)
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          the 1st as drawn now is 10% less black than the state as a whole, and the white voters there are more likely to vote for Democrats down-ballot. His history winning enough of them should help him in going statewide, where he can count on more African American voters helping him out, too.

          In reality, laws are always useful to those with possessions and harmful to those who have nothing. - Rousseau, The Social Contract, note 5

          by James Allen on Wed Jun 04, 2014 at 02:55:07 PM PDT

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    •  Times change, and politics in Mississippi (2+ / 0-)
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      are not stagnant.  As the man says, "Don't think that it won't happen just because it hasn't happened yet."

      :)

    •  When was the last time.. (3+ / 0-)
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      LordMike, NinetyWt, bananapouch1

      a non-incumbent Democrat won a statewide election for federal office in Georgia? Oh, but Nunn is leading her challengers...

      The past does not necessarily dictate the future. No one's saying MS won't be a difficult one to win. But I don't think it's as unwinnable as you believe.

      TX-17 (Bill Flores-R), TX Sen-14 (Kirk Watson-D), TX HD-50 (Celia Israel-D). Senate ratings map (as of 3/10/14)

      by Le Champignon on Wed Jun 04, 2014 at 09:42:33 AM PDT

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      •  As to Georgia... (0+ / 0-)

        Zell Miller was appointed and then elected to a half-term as senator. The last non-incumbent Democrat elected was Max Cleland in 1996. In 2008 (when Obama boosted turnout) Jim Martin kept Chambliss under 50%, but lost big in the low-turnout runoff.

        Georgia would be a large upset, but it wouldn't be quite as stunning as Mississippi even becoming competitive.

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