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  •  Yes, and it will require a constitutional (4+ / 0-)

    amendment.

    SPES MEA IN DEO EST.

    by commonmass on Wed Jun 04, 2014 at 02:31:57 PM PDT

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    •   i think that an amendment like that would pass (3+ / 0-)
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      it requires 23rds in both houses and pass a general vote.

      •  Maine is a strange place. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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        SPES MEA IN DEO EST.

        by commonmass on Wed Jun 04, 2014 at 02:47:31 PM PDT

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        •  yeah, it has a very independent streak (2+ / 0-)
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          hence why you have races with multoiple people getting sizable support and independents like king becomes senator. Minnesota is much the same way, they elected jesse Ventura as a governor.

          •  Angus was a two term governor. (1+ / 0-)
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            He is also a former Democrat.

            SPES MEA IN DEO EST.

            by commonmass on Wed Jun 04, 2014 at 02:55:14 PM PDT

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            •  Yeah governors are limited to two terms in a row (1+ / 0-)
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              in Maine. now is it possible for them to win a third term after sitting out a term ala Grover Cleveland?

              •  I think OR Gov. Kitzhaber (1+ / 0-)
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                would be a better comparison.  He served two terms, sat out two terms (after all, the sitting Governor was of his own party), then ran again and won.  CA Governor Jerry Brown also comes to mind.  In Cleveland's case, he did not sit out a term because he was barred by law or custom, and he did not sit it out voluntarily.  He lost his bid for a second term in 1888 (winning the popular vote but losing the Electoral College, partially because he lost his home state of NY -- so he was basically his time's Al Gore).  He finally did get his second term in 1892.  The Cleveland comparison might have been more apt if, after leaving in 1896, he sat out a term and ran against McKinley in 1900.

                "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

                by TLS66 on Wed Jun 04, 2014 at 06:27:48 PM PDT

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                •  yes he lost to Benjamin Harrison, the grandson (1+ / 0-)
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                  of William Henry Harrison the 9th president. Back then 2 terms was a unwritten tradition, Grant tried to run for a third term and got soundly rejected at the 1876 convention.

                  •  Wilson also made no secret (1+ / 0-)
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                    that he wanted a third term in 1920, despite the fact he was only just up and about from months of being bedridden by a stroke.

                    "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

                    by TLS66 on Wed Jun 04, 2014 at 09:39:10 PM PDT

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                    •  wilson wouldn't have won a third term, even if (0+ / 0-)

                      he hadnt had the stroke. Harding campaigned on a return to 'normalcy' something that has eluded historians for decades on what exactly that means. Wilson came very close to losing to Charles Evans Hughes in 1916, he was so scared about losing and the country being drawn into war between the election and Hughes taking office that he had written down a plan where whe would appoint Hughes as Secretary of state upon his winning the election, then he and the VP would both resign making Hughes the president immediately.

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