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  •  Did he mention the terms of the agreement ? It (11+ / 0-)

    is that the released prisoners from Gitmo have to stay in Qatar for at least one full year. Then Qatar can decide what to do from that point on , if they let them leave the country. The way it was explained on Saturday on one of the networks was that they cannot go home but must stay in Qatar. Qatar will be watching them. If they cannot leave, that must mean some Qatar official or officials will be assigned to monitor them for this next year.

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    by wishingwell on Wed Jun 04, 2014 at 07:09:56 PM PDT

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    •  Qatar is not a democracy (8+ / 0-)

      They will not be living the high life.

      The thing about democracy, beloveds, is that it is not neat, orderly, or quiet. It requires a certain relish for confusion. Molly Ivins

      by MufsMom on Wed Jun 04, 2014 at 07:21:58 PM PDT

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      •  Exactly ! They are not going home like the (8+ / 0-)

        teahadists type keep saying they are home ..they are not home. None of them are from Qatar and none I am sure want to be in that country but they want to be out of Gitmo. So this is the deal. They are not free to roam about the world or be going to Taliban meetings in Qatar.

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        by wishingwell on Wed Jun 04, 2014 at 07:41:56 PM PDT

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        •  I think this is a bit disingenuous... (4+ / 0-)
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          The 5 received a hero's welcome when they arrived in Doha. They don't appear to be under any sort of restrictions including what they can do or who they can talk to. The Taliban previously had a full-scale envoy office in Quatar which on the surface is closed because of an apparent name/flag spat, but whose staff members are all still active in the country. I just don't think it is believable that Quatar is going to keep them out of trouble. I actually wouldn't be too surprised if they soon show up back in Pakistan or Afghanistan. I really can't believe that anyone in the administration seriously believed that they would stay out of trouble once they were released. They did what they needed to do and they should just be honest about the possible consequences.

          •  I think much of what you say is true. (5+ / 0-)

            But it is another consequence of war. Trusting any adversary in a negotiation has always been a risk with no guarantees. The Bergdahl trade is not any different, and that's the point. So if your commitment is to bring back Americans, then you have to deal with the risk, as we have through many wars.

            If you think some POWs aren't worth it, then the country is obliged to explain who decides whose worth it, and on what basis---a slippery slope with a pretty deep slant.

            "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

            by StellaRay on Thu Jun 05, 2014 at 08:13:30 AM PDT

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          •  I watched Jay Carney explain the deal thoroughly (0+ / 0-)

            on Charlie Rose last night. So, I have to stand by what I said. He and the administration would strongly disagree with you.  And at this point, call me dumb, but I am standing with and trusting the judgment of the POTUS.

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            by wishingwell on Fri Jun 06, 2014 at 05:25:59 AM PDT

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            •  If you read what I posted... (0+ / 0-)

              I'm not disagreeing with the trade. I agree that they did what they needed to do. I simply don't agree with the spin they are now trying to put to this thing. The President should have just come out and said that there are many difficult decisions I am required to make. This is one of them and I did it for these reasons. The spin - especially the Susan Rice comment and the Rose Garden ceremony - make it too easy to target.

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