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  •  I have a cheaper solution: (3+ / 0-)
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    lotlizard, mimi, pashber


    We can't outspend David & Charles, we don't have the money. How 'bout we stop letting television condition our thoughts and lives ? The money in elections is mainly used to buy television advertising, usually negative advertising. What if no one watched ? My vote can't be bought because I don't watch their damn ads.

    The free market is not the solution, the free market is the problem.

    by Azazello on Fri Jun 06, 2014 at 07:16:20 AM PDT

    •  Agree. Watching Jon Stewart just encourages them. (2+ / 0-)
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      It just tricks you into an emotionally satisfying belief that boy, that'll show 'em, while the media oligopoly continues to rake in the advertising money as you and your friends get aggregated into an uptick in viewing rates.

      The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war. ♥ ♥ ♥ Forget Neo — The One is Minori Urakawa

      by lotlizard on Fri Jun 06, 2014 at 07:35:05 AM PDT

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    •  Me too, but my vote wouldn't be worth anything (1+ / 0-)
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      so it's not me ,who gets bought by ads, it's those who have to finance their online presence by ads.

      Lately, we have a lot of ads on Dailykos, though I thought I had an lifetime subscription.

      I rather pay for a subscription, but wouldn't have to get my online real-estate of dailykos polluted with ads I don't want to see. Contrary it upsets me so much how fast and in what detail the ads I see are related to my web surfing.
      It's disgusting.

      My TV at home is dead since a couple of days. So far I haven't missed it.

      We know a hell of a lot, but we understand very little. Manfred Max-Neef

      by mimi on Fri Jun 06, 2014 at 08:32:25 AM PDT

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    •  Your vote may not be bought, but your law-maker is (2+ / 0-)
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      I am heartened to think that there are people with enough good sense to ignore advertisements and seek out factual information about a candidates positions and policies.  Bully for you!!

      Sadly, while your vote may not be bought by the Koch brothers and other wealthy and corporate interests, your law-maker IS bought by those same interests.

      Remember, in order to run an election campaign, your law-maker needs money: money not just to buy TV ads, but to also hire a campaign staff, to rent office space, to pay for electric, phone, an internet service, to print up mailers and bumper stickers, and many other important tasks.  And to get that money, your law-maker HAS to solicit money from private sources: individual donors such as you and me, political action groups, and even corporations.

      Money is important to get into and stay in public office: since 2000, over 90% of elections are won by the team with the greatest amount of money.

      Not surprisingly, those who give the greatest amount of money to a law-maker's election campaign also get preferential access to the law-maker once in office.  Such access brings with it suggestions for how to vote on impending legislation, important "factual" information the law-maker should consider on legislation, and sometimes even entirely written-out proposals for future legislation.

      It is a system that is inherently corrupting.

      The best way to protect our law-makers from this enforced system of corruption is to free the law-maker from the necessity of soliciting money to run a campaign.  This can be accomplished by mandating that ALL elections be ENTIRELY funded with public money (i.e. from tax revenue).

      Currently, private money is used to decide who should hold public office.  This should stop.

      "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

      by Hugh Jim Bissell on Fri Jun 06, 2014 at 09:21:40 AM PDT

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    •  Duplicity is universal in TV, example: Jon Stewart (0+ / 0-)
      You know what I hate, though? I hate when guys like Stewart give Geithner an unopposed platform with prime time airtime, and free use of TDS's reputation, to sell his obnoxious "policies".

      Interesting point in that comment thread was something I'd forgotten about: lunachickie brings up Jon Stewart's bogus joke of a rally on the Mall that just happened to neutralize a serious rally going on at the same time.

      Watching TV is heavily promoted on Daily Kos, for instance by diarist and commenter BruinKid.

      The possibility that personalities such as Jon Stewart might turn out to be serving the purposes of the 1% rather than the 99% wouldn't occur to such writers.

      The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war. ♥ ♥ ♥ Forget Neo — The One is Minori Urakawa

      by lotlizard on Sun Jun 08, 2014 at 10:07:31 AM PDT

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