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  •  To be fair (1+ / 0-)
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    I won't say that liberals have never done this, either deliberately or from self-deception.

    •  But would you say that currently both liberals and (1+ / 0-)
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      conservatives are equally likely to misrepresent data?

      If not, then you're close to engaging in false equivalence.

      If you would say that, I'd disagree with you strongly, looking at simple issues like evolution and climate change, where there are actual scientific facts as opposed to many political issues, where the facts are often opinions, such as whether marriage equality is moral or immoral.

      PS-  I favor marriage equality, along with a growing percentage of Americans.

      •  I think libera nos' comment was limited (0+ / 0-)

        to misrepresentation of polling data. And yes, I think when it comes to trying to read the tea leaves of how people are poised to vote, a combination of statistical innumeracy and all-too-human finger crossing, leading to over-optimism, is pretty common on our side, even if not at Karl Rove 2012 levels.

        Very different from plain scientific fact, where there's no way we'll ever be able to compete with the depth to which the right wing keeps its fingers jammed into its ears.

        The real USA Patriot Act was written in 1789. It's called the Bill of Rights.

        by nicteis on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 06:17:27 AM PDT

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        •  Thanks, that's what I meant (0+ / 0-)

          I think with few exceptions--and even fewer on DKos--our side is pretty good to very good on scientific fact and theory.

          On the other hand, it's clear that there are anti-vaccination nuts on both the left and the right. I also think that the anti-GMO movement (again both left and right) overstates its case and often ignores science, while agreeing that questionable corporate motivations and practices are reasons to go slow.

          But there's no comparison on most issues, including marriage equality, climate change, education, economics, ... .  

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