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  •  An important modifier, yes. (1+ / 0-)
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    My point is that the wording does not grant unlimited consumer choice.

    It's a right to arms. Not all arms. The government has fulfilled its obligations under the SA if it allows even just one kind of arm. It has no obligation to allow them all.

    Its a right to a thing. Not a right to unlimited kinds of things.

    If the amendment said we have a right to keep and wear suits, it would be in keeping with that right if we outlawed polyester suits, as we should.

    The right is to A suit. Not every kind of suit under the sun, into perpetuity. etc.

    •  "Militia" is not a MODIFIER -- it is the SUBJECT (0+ / 0-)

      Amendment.

      That is SUBTANTIATED by the lengthy series of MILITIA ACTS enacted by the Congress AFTER the Amendment was ratified.

      This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain.

      by JJustin on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 06:24:26 AM PDT

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      •  That's fine. And, technically, the SA is no longer (1+ / 0-)
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        applicable, because we don't have state militias anymore. About the closest approximation we have to that is the National Guard.

        So we have a couple of choices.

        1. Limit the SA to people in the National Guard
        2. Compromise with those who want to keep and bear arms outside of the National Guard.

        Doing the latter gives us the right to say we have compromised -- a great deal, in fact. And compromising requires concessions from the other side as well.

        So, far, gun nuts haven't conceded a thing. In fact, they're rapidly expanding their demands and pushing the envelope into the surreal. We've gone from "is it a collective or an individual right" to "we have the right to build personal arsenals with unlimited firepower" to "we have a right to build personal arsenals with unlimited firepower so we can take out our fellow Americans if we say they're 'tyrannical'" to "we will demonstrate all of this in your face in public places, and intimidate you into silence."

        It's time for a return to sanity. Rather, it's time to attempt sanity, for once.

        •  The gun-nuts/fake "militia" nuts ignore the (1+ / 0-)
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          legal realities after the Founders/Framers.  That is why it is necessary to refute their horseshit with the actual legal history enacting by the Founders/Framers.

          This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain.

          by JJustin on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 09:30:54 AM PDT

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