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  •  Alas (0+ / 0-)

    Hawaii is normally a very blue state but tends to be decidedly more hawkish on foreign policy.  This is the remaining memory of Pearl Harbor.  And defense is probably the second major economic factor in the state after recreational drug production; tourism and agriculture are third and fourth.

    •  Absolutely not true (2+ / 0-)
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      Our congressmen were among the handful that voted against invading Iraq.

      One of our congresswomen is a Buddhist

      The State Legislature issued a proclaimation in the runup to the Iraq War pleading for diplomacy and aloha rather than war.

      We are probably the most ANTI-war state there is.

      Nevertheless we have many, many military bases.  And that makes for controversy between the desire for "jobs" and the desire to have the U.S. military stop polluting our state by dumping nuclear waste off our shores, covering Pohakuloa with depleted uranium dust, etc.

      So there IS a dichotomy with our congress people "bringing home the bacon" in the form of military spending and our innate dislike of war.

      •  In a different way, showing military preparedness (0+ / 0-)

        could help avoid war. Although granted, I'm absolutely on the side that we've WAY too much military beyond whatever is necessary for self-defense.

      •  Our former Senator Mark Hatfield (0+ / 0-)

        decided early on not to bring military into Oregon's economy because he did not think it was good for us to depend upon war to make a living. He did bring the Marine Science Center which has become the head of NOAA now and other good stuff.

        Thank God for visionary leadership!

        We have it within our power to make the world over again ~ Thomas Paine

        by occupystephanie on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 04:07:11 PM PDT

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        •  Hatfield was a liberal Republican (0+ / 0-)

          Yes, there were indeed such things, way back in the pre-nutball days.

          (Back at that time, Arlen Specter in PA was also a liberal Republican--and he remains the only Republican I ever worked a campaign for.)

          In the end, reality always wins.

          by Lenny Flank on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 06:06:36 PM PDT

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    •  I would imagine that a state that suffered (2+ / 0-)
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      Karen from Maui, occupystephanie

      Pearl Harbor would be vastly less hawkish than others, if for no other reason than they saw the horror of war first hand.

      Sort of how Japan quickly went pacifist (and anti-nuke) after being nuked, twice.

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