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  •  Free the Political Prisoners (6+ / 0-)

    The DO"J" is now admitting that the basis for these people's imprisonment is obsolete politics. Why mamby-pamby compromise? Any compromise with injustice is still unjust.

    Just change the laws to legalize all drug activity except where it aggravates some other lawbreaking (including raising risks, like DUI). And then free everyone who no longer has a law sentencing them to jail.

    Then it's time to talk about compensating them for the life we robbed from them.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 02:07:18 PM PDT

    •  It's worse than obsolete politics. (0+ / 0-)

      It's an unholy matrimony of crony capitalism and corrupt careerism.

      I read about one case where a woman who lived with a man she new was a minor dealer.  Which is wrong, of course, but while she got a substantial sentence for racketeering, her boyfriend's boss got off with no jail time.  Why? Because he cut a deal to throw everyone who worked for him under the bus, along with anyone else associated with them. It was a deal that let the most dangerous criminal go free in order to goose up the prosecutor's career conviction stats.

      I've lost my faith in nihilism

      by grumpynerd on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 06:43:29 PM PDT

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      •  Dangerous Criminal? (0+ / 0-)

        Unless I have evidence to the contrary, I don't believe the boss was a "dangerous" criminal. Nor were any of the others.

        Not that they couldn't be dangerous criminals. Criminalizing drugs and their trade has made it possibly the best crime for actually dangerous criminals. But all I know from your post is that their crime was dealing drugs, which isn't in itself dangerous. Except to the dealers, who get no police protection (they get police arresting them, except when they bribe people) amidst competition with plenty of reason to be dangerous.

        Really, this whole discussion is about how drug criminals shouldn't be jailed. Where are you coming from with this "dangerous criminal" charge? All you know is a story you read somewhere about some casualties of the Drug War, which means it's almost certainly not true, at least not entirely - especially any part about "dangerous criminals".

        "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

        by DocGonzo on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 08:19:21 PM PDT

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    •  have you noticed the sturm and drang over mj use (0+ / 0-)

      lately..'new studies' etc all of a sudden mj is killing people and ruining teens lives..as if jail was good for them. Make a man of em yessirree!

      the 'tax it and heavily regulate it'crowd, killing this with the Serious People now in charge, co-opting the parade as always....yeah right, these same assholes who promoted and signed off on and weren't objecting to the origins of the War on Drugs.  Accommodating those Serious People really is awful politics. Instead they should be excoriated for letting this get this bad in the first place...yet they will always be seen as the reasonable centrists. gah...
      Nixon and Reagan...why does god hate us so?

      This machine kills Fascists.

      by KenBee on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 10:34:52 PM PDT

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      •  Democrats Against Freedom (0+ / 0-)

        I also notice that Democrats are interfering with prohibition repeal. Even in Colorado, the Democratic governor opposed legalization, and continues to obstruct where he can. In Florida, Debbie Wasserman Shultz is opposing the state medical marijuana reforms (that 90% of the state's people support), though it has nothing to do with her role in Congress ("as a mom" or some BS).

        Repealing marijuana prohibition should be a top Democratic priority. It is perfectly in line with the Democrats healthcare marketing PR, with their voters' values and interests (especially the constituencies heavily jailed), with the "reasonable government" image, with the grassroots economic rhetoric, with "reality based" (ironically enough). And perhaps most importantly because it is exactly the issue with which Republican "libertarians" could snatch ideological victory from the jaws of practical defeat - stealing it from Democrats.

        But maybe that's the point. Democrats always seem to be more self defeating than otherwise defeatable, while usually losing. It's starting to be clearly a feature, not a bug.

        "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

        by DocGonzo on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 09:05:14 AM PDT

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