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  •  Merely helping students (5+ / 0-)

    is poison pill enough for republicans.  Until the country comes to its senses our descent will continue.

    •  Maybe they'll be room here for some compromising. (2+ / 0-)
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       Take away the tax increase, but leave the reduction in interest costs as a practical and politically popular matter.
        But then again, you might be right, helping students may be enough to drive the Republicans away in droves.
        Helping anyone seems to drive them away, unless it's the uber-wealthy or the large corporations.

      "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

      by elwior on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 02:45:17 PM PDT

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      •  This is exactly my point. Make the Cons vote (2+ / 0-)
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        against student debt relief without the easy cop-out of "raising taxes will hurt the economy".

        IMHO its better for the Dems to point to the actual benefits they've provided for people through actual legislation than to simply say that the Cons are worse because they won't raise taxes on rich people to help out students.

        "The Earth is my country and Science my religion" Christiaan Huygens. The gold standard ended on August 15, 1971, its time we start acting like it. If we can afford full employment killing Germans, we can afford full employment during peace-time.

        by Auburn Parks on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 02:58:54 PM PDT

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    •  I would agree with you here, helping people that (1+ / 0-)
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      aren't wealthy campaign bribers is anathema to Cons, but make them vote against students, don't let them off the hook by saying "we would love to help students, but raising taxes is bad for the economy".

      Thats a more powerful message IMHO

      "The Earth is my country and Science my religion" Christiaan Huygens. The gold standard ended on August 15, 1971, its time we start acting like it. If we can afford full employment killing Germans, we can afford full employment during peace-time.

      by Auburn Parks on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 03:09:13 PM PDT

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      •  Yes, I get your point and I hope the proposal (0+ / 0-)

        can be modified, but in the end I don't think it'll help. I do believe they would still vote it down, particularly in the House.

        "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

        by elwior on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 03:19:44 PM PDT

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        •  I agree 100%. We cant control what the Cons do, (1+ / 0-)
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          we can only control what we do.

          "The Earth is my country and Science my religion" Christiaan Huygens. The gold standard ended on August 15, 1971, its time we start acting like it. If we can afford full employment killing Germans, we can afford full employment during peace-time.

          by Auburn Parks on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 03:22:06 PM PDT

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