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  •  Excuse me, but what? (4+ / 0-)
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    I did not in any way defend the Catholic Church's reprehensible acts in Ireland. In fact, I was trying to diver the conversation back from making this about vaccines and Big Pharma, which it isn't, to what the story was about–how the Catholic Church treated people in Ireland.

    If this diary was "pro-Catholic" please show me where, so I can correct the error.

    Skepticism is evaluating the quality and quantity of evidence to reach a conclusion. It is not gathering evidence to support a closed minded conclusion.

    by SkepticalRaptor on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 05:14:12 PM PDT

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    •  You essentially defended the vaccine (0+ / 0-)

      aspect - using perfectly cromulent arguments to be sure - but still that wasn't really necessary at all.

      Why not just leave it be yet another steaming turd on the huge shitpile that comprises that organization?

      •  Actually, that is where I thought SR was going too (0+ / 0-)

        until I read the last paragraph. I thought it was going to be defending the mores and ethics of the 1920s-60s in the medical field and slamming the previous diarists ( myself amongst them) for jumping on the Catholic church and sensationalizing this whole horror story.

        A fo ben, bid bont. - Welsh proverb. ( translation: If you want to be a leader, be a bridge.)

        by Gwennedd on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 07:23:12 PM PDT

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      •  I didn't get that from the diary (3+ / 0-)
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        although it did occur to me that someone else reading it was bound to.   I saw nothing from the diarist defending the use of these kids as human guinea pigs, just evidence that it was publicly known and sanctioned at the time.

        I thought the final paragraph pretty clearly summarized  the point of the diary - that the journalists, by latching onto the vaccine piece, completely missed the larger story, i.e., the Catholic Church's long history of mistreating children.

        A house is no home unless it contains food and fire for the mind as well as the body. - Margaret Fuller

        by penelope pnortney on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 07:48:38 PM PDT

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        •  IMHO, the correct strategy is to go after (0+ / 0-)

          the RCC like the Republicans go after Obama, where * nothing * not matter how small and / or insignificant is not a matter of great outrage

          It all adds up, rather than clouding the waters with doubt.

          And sure, I get how this diary is provocative, interesting, etc for readers of this site.  My point is that it's hardly an effective strategy out in the "real world" for accomplishing effective change.  Nuance just does not work out there.

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