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  •  none of this should be surprising. (4+ / 0-)

    Reason it out:

    You have a device that contains a microphone, a camera or two, and a GPS sensor, with no physical switch to disconnect them, all controlled by software, and nowadays no way to remove the battery to power it down.

    It's also equipped with games, apps, and other consumer candy to make it quasi-addictive.

    It's something you typically carry around in a pocket, where the camera can see what you see, and the mic can hear what you hear including any live conversations in the room, and the GPS sensor knows where you are at every moment.

    That is precisely the formula for the perfect surveillance device: an "electronic bug" that never needs to be concealed from its intended target, and that the user eagerly keeps recharged and positioned in the best possible place for picking up the sights & sounds.  

    Is it any wonder that the three-letter agencies have latched onto it?

    And (more insidiously because this is completely unregulated), would it be any surprise if various corporations (Facebook, Google, were using its surveillance capabilities for their own purposes, the better to siphon your wallet and penalize you if you're "atypical" or fall into certain profiles?

    Would it be any further surprise if cybercriminals were using it in nefarious ways, such as to watch you enter your PIN at ATMs, or capture photos and other information to use for extortion?

    "Hey, let's have a baby that has no immune system!  It won't get sick because, well because it's our baby and we're special!"


    I don't have one.  Telecoms engineer speaking here, 30 years in the field.  

    When you hear experts saying "don't eat such-and-such, it'll make you sick," what do you do?  Eat it anyway?

    We got the future back. Uh-oh.

    by G2geek on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 08:07:07 PM PDT

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    •  I just googled Stingray and found hundreds (1+ / 0-)
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      of surveillence products you can buy off the internet to spy on your spouse, business partners, kids, neighbors etc.

      I'm trying to find this do it yourself, shielded pocked glove some one wrote about here.

      Am I correct to think that one of this do it yourself Faraday Cages would block these signals when you were not using your phone?  Like one of those metal enclosed cookie tins lined on the inside wih styro foam or some other insulator?

      The glove someone made here at a mesh screen sewn into a sock like cover that folded over the top that was supposed to stop those folks who were using scanners to read your credit card info while you are walking down the street in Manhattan. Does this sound plausible to you?

      If so I'm going to find the and do a post of them as a recommended counter-measure everyone should do as a regular habit.

      I also just shifted to TOR as an operating system.

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      by HoundDog on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 08:47:10 PM PDT

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    •  Exactly. (2+ / 0-)
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      It's the fault of those embracing technology, not of those using it against them.

      After all, such abuse is to be expected.

      They were asking for it.

      Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

      by DeadHead on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 10:12:56 PM PDT

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    •  I'm not a telcom engineer (1+ / 0-)
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      I don't even use a cellphone.

      However I have worked with a few. I can remember working with telecom engineers for a company in Winchester MA, that made waveguide for the Polaris subs and designing EMF shielding back in the early sixties; and another "phone company" putting in infrastructure to include solar powered cell phone repeater "B2" com buildings between Hawtah and Riyadh for ARAMCO, and one in Waltham that wanted to relocate its "campus" to Boston.

      I have a general idea of what is involved. To put it simply we have made a deal with the devil.

      There was a sixties movie called "the President's analyst"with James Coburn, that summed it up well for 1967.

      This was back when phone surveillance  was transitioning from devices that used to have phone lines that you would physically tap to something more like "the Wire" where you needed permission from a provider, to finally Poindexter's TIA and "just getting it all" as a matter of course.

      Its not just the phone company. Corporations have easements through peoples land where they can run transmission lines, pipelines full of nasty tar sands, its their country not ours, and if we don't like it and get uppity, fail to know our place we can be exterminated like any other pest that gets in the way of profit.

      "la vida no vale nada un lugar solita" "The Limits of Control Jim Jarmusch

      by rktect on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 04:54:16 AM PDT

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